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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 05 Dec 2016 18:58 #261

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That's all I needed to read, I knew you were cheating all along, and now you've admitted it.

:chuckle:


I am happy to see you as happy a little child on Christmas Eve :D

Where was I cheating, rat?


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Where was I cheating, rat?

In pretending that Ausrotten meant ''uproot'' when discussing people.

Holocaust denial is truly out for the count now, and you know it.

You'd be as well just posting ''yeah yeah we gassed the jews so what?'' at least you would not be cheating there either.

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I am happy to see you as happy a little child on Christmas Eve

Your (eventual and accidental) honesty is the best Christmas present that you could give me, now I wish you'd stop this holocaust deniers charade and just admit that you're happy that the Jews were gassed and stop pretending otherwise.

It's about time you were honest with yourself, you're not fooling anyone who's not already a fool.

:)
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why so many furnaces?

start here and work your way forward

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Let's all have a good laugh at Rudolf being taken to pieces. :larf:
When crematorium 3 was completed and transferred to the camp on June 24, 1943, an inventory that was added as an appendix to the official transfer document notes, however, that morgue 1 of that building contained 14 showers. The question, now, is whether and if so how these 14 showers relate to the abandoned project to install 100 showers in morgue 2 - the undressing room. Can they be explained by reference to the plan of middle May? And if so, does their presence mean that morgue 1 of crematorium 3 was not used as a gas chamber?

Let us first look at the inventory of crematorium 3 in greater detail. The first thing that must be noted is that it is not a complete inventory: we know through comparison with other transfer documents (such as the transfer document of crematorium 2 of March 31, 1943) that the main document contained the major inventory, and the appendix only subsidiary items. The problem is that the page that mentions the major items did not survive. But the page that does survive gives nevertheless some important clues as to the use of morgue 1. It records that this room was equipped with a gasdichte tür, a gas-tight door. From a letter dated March 31, 1943, and signed by the Chief Architect of Auschwitz, Karl Bischoff, we know that this gas-tight door was similar to the gas-tight door of crematorium 2, that is a door "with a spy-hole made of double 8mm glass with a rubber seal and metal fitting." Bischoff stressed in his letter of March 31 that his order for that door was "very urgent." 19 Why would a shower room urgently need a gas-tight door, with a spy-hole of double 8 mm glass with a rubber seal and a metal fitting?

Let us now try to reconstruct the sequence of events that connects the letter of March 31 to the inventory of June 24. It seems that in March 1943 the Auschwitz SS tried to complete crematorium 3 with a sense of urgency as, at that time, there was still a belief that in the near future the more than 800,000 Hungarian Jews would be deported to Auschwitz - as many of them were, in the end, in the Spring and Summer of 1944. At that time, the Auschwitz SS intended crematorium 3 to be equipped, like its just completed twin crematorium 2, with an undressing room and a gas chamber equipped with a gas-tight door with a spy-hole. Then, in April 1943, Hitler was unable to convince Horthy to surrender the Hungarian Jews, and transports to Auschwitz began to decrease, while crematoria 4 and 5 were brought into operation, creating a massive killing and incineration capacity. At the same time Birkenau was assigned a new function to service the new satellite camps, and serious measures were contemplated to improve hygienic conditions so that the camp could fulfill its contractual obligations to the various civilian companies that were to use the labour of the inmates. Realizing that there was no need for crematorium 3 to serve as a killing station - crematoria 2, 4 and 5 had more than sufficient capacity at that time - it appears that the Auschwitz SS contemplated to use the basement of the not-yet completed crematorium 3 as a shower facility for the inmates. The Central Construction Office decided to install in the now obsolete undressing room 100 showers, to be supplied with hot water generated by the waste incinerator, and probably an unknown number of showers in the other basement room, which had been intended as a gas chamber, and which was therefore supplied with a gas-tight door. These showers were probably cold-water showers, not to use the water heated by the waste incinerator. The reason that the spaces originally designed as basement morgues and later planned to be an undressing room and a gas chamber invited such a transformation was the presence of six drains in the floor of the undressing room and four drains in the floor of the gas chamber.

Then, as May progressed, crematoria 2 and 4 broke down, and it became clear that crematorium 3 would be needed as a killing installation after all. The project to install the 100 hot-water showers in the undressing room was therefore abandoned, but it is possible that the gas chamber had already been equipped with 14 of the unknown number of cold-water showers, and as these could be useful in serving the needs of the Sonderkommandos living in the building, they were left in place, and therefore duly recorded when, in late June 1943, the crematorium was transferred to the camp. To complete the arrangement in the gas chamber, the 14 real showers were complemented with an unknown number of fake showers, not listed in the inventory, but mentioned in various testimonies given by eyewitnesses.

This narrative attempt to correlate a few important pieces of evidence - such as the letter of March 31, the meeting between Hitler and Horthy in Klessheim, the documents concerning the installation of hot-water showers in mid May, the break-down of crematoria 2 and 4 later that same month, Bischoff's answers to the questions asked in the questionnaire in June, and the partial inventory attached to the transfer document of June 24 - may be a reasonable depiction of what actually occurred and, given the fragmentary state of the evidence, probably important facts are left out. But whatever it may or may not be, it shows that the presence of 14 showers in the inventory attached to the transfer document of does not mean that the room in which they were installed was not a gas chamber. It only suggests that the road to the completion of crematorium 3 as a killing installation was a twisted path.

In his attempt to use Bischoff's proposal to install 100 hot-water showers in the "undressing room" of crematorium 3 as evidence that this crematorium was not a killing installation, Rudolf did face the problem how to explain why this building would have been equipped with an "undressing room" to start with. Rudolf tries to answer that question by postulating that the decision to put those showers in this "undressing room" shows that the word "undressing room" is used "in the ordinary mortuary sense, and not in any special sense." This statement, which is a mere assertion without any explanation, does not make any sense whatsoever. I do not understand "the ordinary mortuary sense" of making a very large space into an "undressing room," and then filling it with showers. Does Rudolf suggest that it was customary in Germany to shower dead bodies en masse? Or does he have something else in mind? What is clear, however, is that Rudolf has not provided any evidence that showers and undressing rooms were common features in German morgues.

Which leaves, then, the question of the gas-tight door. If, indeed, the presence of an undressing room and showers show that the basement of crematorium 3 was used in "the ordinary mortuary sense," what would be the "ordinary mortuary sense" of the gas-tight door mentioned in that same inventory that listed the 14 showers? After giving so much attention to one item of the inventory - the 14 showers - he completely ignores that other item - the gas-tight door. phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/irving-david/vanpelt/vanpelt-showerheads.shtml

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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 05 Dec 2016 21:09 #266

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Where was I cheating, rat?

In pretending that Ausrotten meant ''uproot'' when discussing people.

Holocaust denial is truly out for the count now, and you know it.

You'd be as well just posting ''yeah yeah we gassed the jews so what?'' at least you would not be cheating there either.

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I am happy to see you as happy a little child on Christmas Eve

Your (eventual and accidental) honesty is the best Christmas present that you could give me, now I wish you'd stop this holocaust deniers charade and just admit that you're happy that the Jews were gassed and stop pretending otherwise.

It's about time you were honest with yourself, you're not fooling anyone who's not already a fool.

:)



I think there is something not quite right with your ... imagination :D


You can find my response on the original thread: truth-zone.net/forum/pfizipfei-forum-members-area/67279-no-open-letter-to-those-who-behave-like-hateful-jews-on-truth-zone.html


Happy Hanukkah!


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The Holocaust Deniers Triad of Traits 05 Dec 2016 21:18 #267

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Holoschweinsehaxe promoters :facepalm:


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A quick recap of recent events.

PFIZIPFEI wrote:
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What to do with Germany?

Absenken, asfaltieren und ausrotten

Context: truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/63680-excerpt-of-what-to-do-with-germany.html?start=100#235942


I guess you meant to say "level to the ground, bituminise, exterminate" in German?


PFIZIPFEI admitting (not paying attention) to Ausrotten = Exterminate.

Of course when Himmler stated this in his Posen speech she tried to make out that Ausrotten = ''uproot'' when referring to ''Volk'' not weeds.

Anyway everyone, have a good look at her arse as I just handed it to her on a plate.
ausrotten, exterminate ausrotten: I. 1. (Unkraut [weeds] etc.) uproot, tear (od. pull) (s.th.) up by the roots, root (s.th.) up.
2. (Volk [a people], Rasse [race], etc.) exterminate, wipe out, extirpate: diese Krankheit rottete die ganze Bevölkerung aus this disease wiped out the entire population; die Urbevölkerung des Landes wurde ausgerottet the native population of the country was exterminated (od. killed off); etwas mit Stumpf und Stiel ausrotten auch fig. to destroy s.th. root and branch
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it's about time she came clean, stopped all the lying, the Fuhrer is dead now, the Third Reich is finished, and so is holocaust denial, if you keep the lies up any longer you'll go mad, if you're not already.

It's unhealthy to keep lying when the facts are right before your face.
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^ this is not a thread about meals or cooking^

Though I can see why you're both so desperate to change the topic, you've just had your Holocaust deniers Triad of Traits utterly smashed to pieces .By one poster on one thread. Well three thread if you include my Prussian Blue Hoax thread and the one about No Nazi was ever a ....''

But they were just well placed pawns for my final solution to be implemented to the holocaust deniers here, thus now i have smashed through your deniers bs like a steam train and you know it.
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How sad, the old Gestapo gang tactic of derailing threads when they have had their arses kicked, anyhow I'll ask novum to delete your cookery posts later.
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How sad, the old Gestapo gang tactic of derailing threads when they have had their arses kicked, anyhow I'll ask novum to delete your cookery posts later.

good idea -not an intentional derailing btw


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I do hope that you decide to be honest about the holocaust and stop all the lies and cheats about what words mean and all the rest of the nonsense, If you want to dislike Jews be my guest but there's no reason to pretend that none of them were gassed in the German prison camps when they so obviously were.

You'd be as well arguing that WW2 did not occur at all, Hitler was a pacifist who spent his time knitting hats and scarfs for the Poles, and Mussolini whipped them up a lovely hot bowl of minestrone soup.

The Jews all had a lovely time in their holiday camps, what with swimming pools and orchestras, brothels and peep shows, and then at the end of the war holiday they decided to throw themselves into furnaces and incineration pits because they wanted to make dolfy look bad, how rude eh, after all the nice things he did for them.

Mean ole Jews, drat, how ungrateful, old dolfy was only tying to save them from typhus, and Himmie wanted to uproot them like he was potting plants in his garden that had spent the winter in his potting shed.

Mean ole Jews eh..

You could start a new trend, the National Socialists who support the holocaust brigade, your premise could be ''the Jews got gassed, so?''

Or ''We are the National Socialists, the holocaust is both true and good.''
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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I do hope that you decide to be honest about the holocaust and stop all the lies and cheats about what words mean and all the rest of the nonsense, If you want to dislike Jews be my guest but there's no reason to pretend that none of them were gassed in the German prison camps when they so obviously were.

You'd be as well arguing that WW2 did not occur at all, Hitler was a pacifist who spent his time knitting hats and scarfs for the Poles, and Mussolini whipped them up a lovely hot bowl of minestrone soup.

The Jews all had a lovely time in their holiday camps, what with swimming pools and orchestras, brothels and peep shows, and then at the end of the war holiday they decided to throw themselves into furnaces and incineration pits because they wanted to make dolfy look bad, how rude eh, after all the nice things he did for them.

Mean ole Jews, drat, how ungrateful, old dolfy was only tying to save them from typhus, and Himmie wanted to uproot them like he was potting plants in his garden that had spent the winter in his potting shed.

Mean ole Jews eh..

You could start a new trend, the National Socialists who support the holocaust brigade, your premise could be ''the Jews got gassed, so?''

Or ''We are the National Socialists, the holocaust is both true and good.''

Those National Socialists must have been real clever for committing the perfect crime 6.000.000 times over again, not leaving a trace of the dead...
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Well it seems like there were 66 cremation furnaces lying about, in order to cremate 270'000 (red cross figure) prisoners in three years.

Anyway you don't have to promote the 6 million figure but you could start a new movement known as National Socialists for the holocaust, i've already given you a lead with my post about how the 66 furnaces were way to many to cremate only 270.000 prisoners in three years, or that the 46 furnaces in Auschwitz more than enough to cremate the entire 400,000 registered prisoners there in total, in three years,

My calculations are here
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It's time to stop lying about the holocaust even Himmler admitted to it in his Posen speech, most of the then Nazis who had worked in the camps did not deny it, the topf engineers testified too, as did many prisoners, Leutcher and Rudolf have been shown to be a pair of fools, the Prussian Blue hoax is in tatters, the fuel for the furnaces has been explained.

No holocaust denier has ever disproved the homicidal gas chambers, which is the crux of the holocaust.

There were piles of bodies found and laid out all over the shop.

As I say you don't have to agree with the ''official 6 million'' narrative but you're all doing what Gaia does and say it's ''all fake'' when you'd make a far better challenge if you took the witnesses and the other evidence as face value, i mean ffs according to your narrative ''holocaust denial'' there should have been line and line of Ex Nazis coming forward in the 1940's 50's 60's 70's right up until the holocaust denial laws were created in Germany in the mid 1980's. to tell us it's all a big lie But there were none (or at least barely none).

Every document, every testimony, every bit of evidence you have to dismiss as fake, in such case you've got a bit of a cheek accusing Gaia of the very same. ie ''fake fake fake.''
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The Holocaust Affirmers Minorah of Lying Traits 06 Dec 2016 14:48 #276

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You forgot to mention the Nazi Party was a Jewish Bankster creation. Hitler was a hypochondriac puppet with severe psychotic
mental disorders controlled by the Jewish inner circle of advisors. These included (((Goebels))), (((Himmler))), Honeypot (((Eva Braun))),
Hitler's Jewish Doctors (((Bloch))) and ((( Morrel))) who controlled him via cocain. Hence the lunatic Nazi strategic conduct
of WWII which was indoctrinated into Hitler by his inner circle of Jewish advisors and designed to fail!.

The two World Wars were planned and created by Jewish Zionists by means of their control of the usary banking system.
They controlled both sides.
The excess cremation oven capacity was planned and scripted in advance to back up the "extermination" lie.
There were (((66))) ovens?........what a (((surprise)))..... :larf:

Read the (((Max Nordau))) Speech at a Paris Zionist meeting after the 6th Zionist Congress Conference in Basle (1905)
“‘Now this great progressive world power, England, has after the pogroms of Kishineff, in token of her sympathy with our poor people, offered through the Zionist Congress the autonomous colony of Uganda to the Jewish nation. Of course, Uganda is in Africa, and Africa is not Zion and never will be Zion, to quote Herzl’s own words. But Herzl knows full well that nothing is so valuable to the cause of Zionism as amicable political relations with such a power as England is, and so much more valuable as England’s main interest is concentrated in the Orient. Nowhere else is precedent as powerful as in England, and so it is most important to accept a colony out of the hands of England and create thus a precedent in our favor. Sooner or later the Oriental question will have to be solved, and the Oriental question means, naturally, also the question of Palestine. England, who had addressed a formal, political note to the Zionist Congress—the Zionist Congress which is pledged to the Basle program, England will have the deciding voice in the final solution of the Oriental question, and Herzl has considered it his duty to maintain valuable relations with this great and progressive power. Herzl knows that we stand before a tremendous upheaval of the whole world. Soon, perhaps, some kind of a world-congress will have to be called, and England, the great, free and powerful England, will then continue the work it has begun with its generous offer to the Sixth Congress. And if you ask me now what has Israel to do in Uganda, then let me tell you as the answer the words of the statesmen of Sardinia, only applied to our case and given in our version; let me tell you the following words as if I were showing you the rungs of a ladder leading upward and upward: Herzl, The Zionist Congress, the English Uganda proposition, the future world war, the peace conference where with the help of England a free and Jewish Palestine will be created.’

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Please explain Nordau's pre-knowledge of the coming World Wars and the Balfour Declaration in 1905!!!!..... :iitm:

Nothing you have posted refutes Rudolph's, Ball's, Mattogno's or other honest revisionist's research. Pressac and Pelt were Jews who infiltrated Revisionist research to publish easily refutable Bollocks in order to discredit Revisionists in general.

Same (((Triad Grouping))) tactic (all HoloHoax Deniers are Nazis) Bollocks you are attempting smear people with.
I've parodied your pathetic technique in my post titles. The more you continue with it the bigger pratt you appear.
Please don't stop......... :larf:
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Why don't you start a thread about ''Hitler being controlled by Jews'' and whatnot, I'm sure Gaia will agree with much of what you post on it?

Well Rudolf is yet to explain why there would be an ''undressing room'' in a morgue, and why on the inventory list that he referred to find ''14 shower heads'' there was also ''a gas tight door.''

He also does not explain why there would be (according to his narrative ) a multi shower head shower room in a morgue?

Can't you see what's being said? Rudolf is stating that the ''gas chamber'' in crem 3 at Auschwitz was a shower room and says that it had shower heads in it, but he does not say why there is a huge undressing room/shower room in a morgue at all?

He refers to an inventory list that contains one item listed as ''14 shower heads'' for crem 3, but neglects to include the fact that there was also ''a gas tight door'' listed as an item on the same inventory list for crem 3 as the 14 shower heads.

If you don't think he's full of horse shit, then I can't help you.
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Gaia? I have no wish to be associated with the views of a (((poster))) who promotes the idea that rockets
will not work in a vacuum because it contravenes the 2nd Law of Thermodarnwarnacks..... :larf:
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Gaia? I have no wish to be associated with the views of a poster who promotes the idea that rockets
will not work in a vacuum because it contravenes the 2nd Law of Thermodarnwarnacks..... :larf:

Ok sorry, so you're not that barmy after all.

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Well Rudolf is yet to explain why there would be an ''undressing room'' in a morgue, and why on the inventory list that he referred to find ''14 shower heads'' there was also ''a gas tight door.''

He also does not explain why there would be (according to his narrative ) a 100 shower head shower room in a morgue?

Can't you see what's being said? Rudolf is stating that the ''gas chamber'' in crem 3 at Auschwitz was a shower room and says that it had 100 shower heads in it, but he does not say why there is a huge undressing room/shower room in a morgue at all?

He refers to an inventory list that contains one item listed as ''14 shower heads'' for crem 3, but neglects to include the fact that there was also ''a gas tight door'' listed as an item on the same inventory list for crem 3 as the 14 shower heads.

Provide links to original Articles/Books authored by Rudolph including Page #s verifying the above :arowup:.
Your Jusual "Copy and Pasta" from (((Nizkor))) and similar sites that deliberately misinterpret/misquote Revisionist articles
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NUKES ARE A HOAX
TRUTH IS HATE FOR THOSE THAT HATE THE TRUTH
Meet the New Boss.....Same as the Old Boss

http://www.stopthecrime.net/Henry-Makow---Illuminati----(2008).PDF
(((ROCCO))) is a Sayanim Troll
(((HotRod))) is a (((ROCCO))) sock account
MrAnderson is a Bollock….lmao
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