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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 18 Jul 2019 00:05 #1

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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED.



Here is a group historians who have investigated the life of Jesus Christ, and their findings. This thread is not intended to offend anyone or their beliefs. It is intended to awaken one, to prompt one to investigate for themselves, the lies and deception used to hold us down.

Below, I have itemized some of the points in the video I find particularly revealing.

5:12…..No physical artifacts from the 1st century, no autographs or originals of the gospels

7:16…..Jesus Christ does not exist outside the Bible. No historians of that time documented Jesus.

8:19…..”Christ” was a title, not a name. It meant, “the anointed one”

9:38…. No one even mentions Jesus until many decades after he was supposed to have died.

27.45…Christianity was not a new religion, it was a continuing of pagan religions under a different name.

31:36….The New Testament was nothing more than a copy of the hindu, Krishna and Buddha.

33:05….No one really knows when Jesus was born?

37:32….where was Jesus born?

39.19…. Christianity branched off from Gnosticism Gnosticism was the belief of god within

41:24….Gnosticism was one of the three “G’s” in freemasonry. The other two were, God and Geomerty.

42:53…..Gnostic considered themselves to be the first Christians

43:10…..Gnosticism was around long before “historic” Christianity.

43:46…..The greatest crime was to not admit Jesus Christ was a historic figure.

47.55…..The word, “Christ” was a borrowed word from the Hindu, “Krishna”

48.13…..Christos, Krishna, is said to be the intermediary, guide, between God and Man. Just like the Jesus Christ figure in Christianity.

48:48…..It wasn’t until the council of Nice was the word’s, “Jesus” and “Christ” were put together as, “Jesus Christ”

50:00…. That which was omitted from the new testament was later known as the “Gnostic Gospels”

1:01.19 ….15 religions just like Christanity

123: 14…..Signs of the zodiac as the 12 deciiples

154: 53 ….The Christian god Yahweh was originally called, ‘El Shaddai'.
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 18 Jul 2019 01:11 #2

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Threads / discussions like these always makes me wonder if Jesus didn't exist, then why do the jews so incredibly hate Jesus Christ and Christianity?


I mean... the shit they write about Jesus in their Talmud, which is the jews most sacred and 'unedited' work of books..
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 18 Jul 2019 05:21 #3

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40:45 ''Jewish Zombie'' :raiseglass:
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 18 Jul 2019 10:14 #4

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Cesare Borgia, son of Pope Alexander VI



Jesus cleansing a leper, medieval mosaic from the Monreale Cathedral

The modern face of Jesus is Borgia.

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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 18 Jul 2019 11:00 #5

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The part about god not being a single deity, I've read before, it was in an article about the old Sumerian myths etc...

But in the process of converting the pantheon of gods into the single Deity of Yahweh, the writers sometimes made ‘errors’ and allowed the pluralistic origins of the Deity surface. In regard to the creation of mankind, the writer of the Book of Genesis made such as error when he stated, in Chapter I, verse 26:

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness…”

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him: male and female created he them.”

And again, in Genesis 5:1 and 5:2, we find a parallel account, in which it is stated that:

“In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God he made him. Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam…”.

The word used in Genesis 1:26 to name the Deity was Elohim, which denotes the plural of ‘deity’. Later, in regard to the incident in which Adam and Eve partake of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil, the plural of El (i.e. God) – Elohim, is again used in which the Deity, apparently speaking to others of His own kind, stated, in Chapter III, verse 22:

“And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil.”
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.....but it included these pluralistic quotes from the Bible Genesis chapter.
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 18 Jul 2019 12:39 #6

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peacenik wrote:
Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED.

Haha mate I can see you've been taking "Funny Guy" lessons from Frothy..:)
Your starter post is like some bubbling cauldron full of cockamamie quotes tossed into it by assorted shit-for-brains atheists, Jesus-rejecters, spiritual retards, and stone-cold losers, I'll try to find time to answer each point in it later, but meantime whatever you do don't swallow any of it..:)



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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 18 Jul 2019 19:35 #7

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Ugh wrote:
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED.

I'll try to find time to answer each point in it later ,

Looking forward to it! :)
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 19 Jul 2019 03:35 #8

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Flare wrote:
Threads / discussions like these always makes me wonder if Jesus didn't exist, then why do the jews so incredibly hate Jesus Christ and Christianity?


I mean... the shit they write about Jesus in their Talmud, which is the jews most sacred and 'unedited' work of books..

I will stand with the Christians when the.time comes
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 19 Jul 2019 05:05 #9

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MrAnderson wrote:
Flare wrote:
Threads / discussions like these always makes me wonder if Jesus didn't exist, then why do the jews so incredibly hate Jesus Christ and Christianity?


I mean... the shit they write about Jesus in their Talmud, which is the jews most sacred and 'unedited' work of books..

I will stand with the Christians when the.time comes

Me to!
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 19 Jul 2019 05:28 #10

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It came as a surprise to me to learn, orthodox Christianity was an off shoot from from Gnostic Christianity (30:19) rather than the other way around. But it does make sense when you think about it. Gnosticism pre-dates orthodox Christianity. Thus, orthodox Christianity borrowed from Gnosticism. Thus, the original Christian had to have been a Gnostic Christian(42:53).
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 19 Jul 2019 08:58 #11

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My opinion is the Josephus wrote the NT, or at least drafted it.
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 19 Jul 2019 12:47 #12

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peacenik wrote:
Here is a group historians who have investigated the life of Jesus Christ, and their findings.
5:12…..No physical artifacts from the 1st century, no autographs or originals of the gospels
7:16…..Jesus Christ does not exist outside the Bible. No historians of that time documented Jesus.
8:19…..”Christ” was a title, not a name. It meant, “the anointed one”
9:38…. No one even mentions Jesus until many decades after he was supposed to have died.

1- Of course most original 2000-year-old parchments have long since crumbled to dust, there were no DVD's to burn them to in those days..:)

2- There are plenty of documents OUTSIDE the bible that mention Jesus, eg-
Gospel of Thomas
Gospel of Marcion
Gospel of Basilides
Gospel of Truth (Valentinian)
Gospel of the Four Heavenly Realms
Gospel of Mary
Gospel of Judas
Greek Gospel of the Egyptians
Gospel of Philip
Pseudo-Gospel of the Twelve
Gospel of Perfection
Jewish-Christian gospels
Gospel of the Hebrews
Gospel of the Nazarenes
Gospel of the Ebionites
Gospel of the Twelve
Infancy gospels[edit]
Armenian Infancy Gospel[citation needed]
Protoevangelium of James
Libellus de Nativitate Sanctae Mariae (Gospel of the Nativity of Mary)
Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew
History of Joseph the Carpenter
Infancy Gospel of Thomas
Latin Infancy Gospel
Syriac Infancy Gospel
Gospel of the Lots of Mary (Coptic collection of 37 oracles; ca. A.D. 500)
Gospel of Eve
Gospel of Mani
Gospel of the Saviour (also known as the Unknown Berlin gospel)
Coptic Gospel of the Twelve
Reconstructed gospels
Gospel of Matthias
Gospel of Cerinthus
Gospel of Apelles
Gospel of Valentinus
Gospel of the Encratites
Gospel of Andrew
Gospel of Bartholomew
Gospel of Hesychius
Gospel of Lucius
Gospel of Merinthus
Gospel of the Adversary of the Law and the Prophets
Memoirs of the Apostles
Papyrus Egerton 2
Fayyum Fragment
Oxyrhynchus Papyri
Gospel of Jesus' Wife
Papyrus Berolinensis 11710
Papyrus Cairensis 10735
Papyrus Merton 51
Strasbourg Fragment
Gospel of the Seventy
Gospel of Nicodemus
Gospel of Barnabas
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels

3- "Anointed' means "given authority" and simply means Jesus was anointed by God to come and kick butt..:)

4- Two of the gospel-writers were actual disciples, you can't get better on-the-spot eyewitness accounts than that..:)
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[27.45…Christianity was not a new religion, it was a continuing of pagan religions under a different name.
31:36….The New Testament was nothing more than a copy of the hindu, Krishna and Buddha.
33:05….No one really knows when Jesus was born?
37:32….where was Jesus born?

1- Christians never put people in Wicker Men like pagans did. Mind you, Edward Woodward deserved it for his bad acting, and in the remake Nic Cage deserved it too for crushing a bumblebee on the pub bar, the bastard!
Another pagan custom in the first film was when Christopher Lee presented a young boy to the landlord's daughter so she could initiate him into the pleasures of sexual delights (below), a scene that no doubt outraged some stuffy "christians", but personally I envy the lucky little fucker..:)



2- Hinduism, Krishna and Buddhism have some coincidental similarities to Christianity, but certain key elements are totally opposite to Christianity.

3- JC was born in the time of Herod, but who cares about the exact date?

4- Likewise he was born in or near Bethlehem, but who cares about the exact street name or house number?
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43:10…..Gnosticism was around long before “historic” Christianity.
43:46…..The greatest crime was to not admit Jesus Christ was a historic figure.
47.55…..The word, “Christ” was a borrowed word from the Hindu, “Krishna”

1- If Gnosticism was around before Christianity, it can't have been much good or people wouldn't have binned it and turned to Christianity..:)
2- Of course Jesus was a historic figure..:)
3- Krishna looked like a friggin tranny so no wonder people turned to the dood from Nazareth..:)

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48:48…..It wasn’t until the council of Nice was the word’s, “Jesus” and “Christ” were put together as, “Jesus Christ”
1:01.19 ….15 religions just like Christanity..

1- Jesus was known by several titles in his lifetime, eg-

HIGH PRIEST- "Jesus of Nazareth, alias the Christ, the Messiah and the Son of God, you stand accused of getting on our tits, how do you plead?"
JC- "Fuck you Charlie"



2- If there were 15 religions like Christianity, they must have been shit religions to let a young dood from Nazareth completely upstage them..:)
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Jesus Christ NEVER EXISTED 19 Jul 2019 21:30 #16

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Ugh wrote:
peacenik wrote:
Here is a group historians who have investigated the life of Jesus Christ, and their findings.
5:12…..No physical artifacts from the 1st century, no autographs or originals of the gospels
7:16…..Jesus Christ does not exist outside the Bible. No historians of that time documented Jesus.
8:19…..”Christ” was a title, not a name. It meant, “the anointed one”
9:38…. No one even mentions Jesus until many decades after he was supposed to have died.

1- Of course most original 2000-year-old parchments have long since crumbled to dust, there were no DVD's to burn them to in those days..:)

2- There are plenty of documents OUTSIDE the bible that mention Jesus, eg-
Gospel of Thomas
Gospel of Marcion
Gospel of Basilides
Gospel of Truth (Valentinian)
Gospel of the Four Heavenly Realms
Gospel of Mary
Gospel of Judas
Greek Gospel of the Egyptians
Gospel of Philip
Pseudo-Gospel of the Twelve
Gospel of Perfection
Jewish-Christian gospels
Gospel of the Hebrews
Gospel of the Nazarenes
Gospel of the Ebionites
Gospel of the Twelve
Infancy gospels[edit]
Armenian Infancy Gospel[citation needed]
Protoevangelium of James
Libellus de Nativitate Sanctae Mariae (Gospel of the Nativity of Mary)
Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew
History of Joseph the Carpenter
Infancy Gospel of Thomas
Latin Infancy Gospel
Syriac Infancy Gospel
Gospel of the Lots of Mary (Coptic collection of 37 oracles; ca. A.D. 500)
Gospel of Eve
Gospel of Mani
Gospel of the Saviour (also known as the Unknown Berlin gospel)
Coptic Gospel of the Twelve
Reconstructed gospels
Gospel of Matthias
Gospel of Cerinthus
Gospel of Apelles
Gospel of Valentinus
Gospel of the Encratites
Gospel of Andrew
Gospel of Bartholomew
Gospel of Hesychius
Gospel of Lucius
Gospel of Merinthus
Gospel of the Adversary of the Law and the Prophets
Memoirs of the Apostles
Papyrus Egerton 2
Fayyum Fragment
Oxyrhynchus Papyri
Gospel of Jesus' Wife
Papyrus Berolinensis 11710
Papyrus Cairensis 10735
Papyrus Merton 51
Strasbourg Fragment
Gospel of the Seventy
Gospel of Nicodemus
Gospel of Barnabas
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels

3- "Anointed' means "given authority" and simply means Jesus was anointed by God to come and kick butt..:)

4- Two of the gospel-writers were actual disciples, you can't get better on-the-spot eyewitness accounts than that..:)


So you've copied and pasted a wikipedia list of Gospels.......and this proves what?

Probably 50% of these gospels are of the Gnosis stripe. Why you're sudden fascination with Gnosis? Several months ago you were running it down, claiming it had nothing to do with Christianity. Now you're trying to use Gnosis as a reference.
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Ugh wrote:
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43:10…..Gnosticism was around long before “historic” Christianity.
43:46…..The greatest crime was to not admit Jesus Christ was a historic figure.
47.55…..The word, “Christ” was a borrowed word from the Hindu, “Krishna”


Of course Jesus was a historic figure.


Well, let's see it. Where is the evidence?
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....Now you're trying to use Gnosis as a reference.

You gotta be jivin us boy!
WIKI- "Gnostics believe the creator of the material universe is not the supreme god, but an inferior spirit the Demiurge"

You can hang with the sad freak if you like mate, but include me out..:)

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Ugh wrote:
Of course Jesus was a historic figure.
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Well, let's see it. Where is the evidence?

The whole of Israel plus the Roman garrison saw him, why would they lie?
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Ugh wrote:
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Of course Jesus was a historic figure.
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Well, let's see it. Where is the evidence?

The whole of Israel plus the Roman garrison saw him, why would they lie?

So says the Bible!

What the historians in this thread are sayings is, 'There are no evidence for a historical Jesus Christ, outside of the church'.

That's all!

No one is disputing, you may, or may not, have a personal relationship with any kind of entity, whether real or imigined? They are merely claiming, 'There are no evidence for a historical Jesus Christ, outside of the church'.

You have not made any kind of case for the historical Jesus. You've only made a case for you're own belief in Jesus. ....See the difference?
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