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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 12 May 2016 17:27 #81

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It's not an insinuation that german-american citizens* were considering the merits of eugenics prior to the 1900's, it's a fact of life. I'm not denying that non-Germans had such ideas, but you seem desperate to distract from the fact that people with German ancestry did.

* Not all of them, but there'll have been at least some.
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 12 May 2016 22:54 #82

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ragnarok wrote:
It's not an insinuation that german-american citizens* were considering the merits of eugenics prior to the 1900's, it's a fact of life. I'm not denying that non-Germans had such ideas, but you seem desperate to distract from the fact that people with German ancestry did.

* Not all of them, but there'll have been at least some.


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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 18:09 #83

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What is the reason that you avoid my simple question PFIZIPFEI ?

You asked me a personal question and I answered you

Could you answer my question aswell PFIZIPFEI

I will even include a few another pictures of children with Down Syndrome

Can you give me your views please;a simple yes or no and maybe a

small explanation will really be enough
Do you want to euthanize these children PFIZIPFEI ?

Can you look these children in the eyes and give them DER GNADENTOT PFIZIPFEI ?

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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 19:12 #84

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^^ Don't know what Pfiz's opinion is, but I wouldn't advocate for euthanising ppl with Down-syndrome at all. They can actually be very nice/fun ppl. However, I think it's a good idea to permit them from having children as they mostly have a lot of problems for taking care of themselves, let alone their child, which would probably also have Down's.

Must say I've seen some very disabled people of which I thought it would be a better idea to euthanize them then let them live.
In nature, how unpleasant it may sound, they wouldn't survive for long... as one can't barely move, hear, see, talk or think... that's no life at all.
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 19:23 #85

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Flare wrote:
^^ Don't know what Pfiz's opinion is, but I wouldn't advocate for euthanising ppl with Down-syndrome at all. They can actually be very nice/fun ppl. However, I think it's a good idea to permit them from having children as they mostly have a lot of problems for taking care of themselves, let alone their child, which would probably also have Down's.

Must say I've seen some very disabled people of which I thought it would be a better idea to euthanize them then let them live.
In nature, how unpleasant it may sound, they wouldn't survive for long... as one can't barely move, hear, see, talk or think... that's no life at all.

I agree with you on the first paragraph

So hypothetically if you would get into a very bad accident and you lost your leggs,and were unable to communicate

due to brain damage then you think it '' would be a better idea to euthanize you then let you live ?
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 19:39 #86

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Cinta wrote:
Flare wrote:
^^ Don't know what Pfiz's opinion is, but I wouldn't advocate for euthanising ppl with Down-syndrome at all. They can actually be very nice/fun ppl. However, I think it's a good idea to permit them from having children as they mostly have a lot of problems for taking care of themselves, let alone their child, which would probably also have Down's.

Must say I've seen some very disabled people of which I thought it would be a better idea to euthanize them then let them live.
In nature, how unpleasant it may sound, they wouldn't survive for long... as one can't barely move, hear, see, talk or think... that's no life at all.

I agree with you on the first paragraph

So hypothetically if you would get into a very bad accident and you lost your leggs,and were unable to communicate

due to brain damage then you think it '' would be a better idea to euthanize you then let you live ?

Well, I was talking about people being born heavily disabled in the first case...

But, if I had a huge car accident and I would be disabled like Christopher Reeve was, then it's ok to euthanize me. Or if the brain damage would be such, that I'm completely out of this world... First see how much recovery there can be made of course.. but I definately would opt out yes.

Wouldn't you..?
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 20:05 #87

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Cinta wrote:
Flare wrote:
^^ Don't know what Pfiz's opinion is, but I wouldn't advocate for euthanising ppl with Down-syndrome at all. They can actually be very nice/fun ppl. However, I think it's a good idea to permit them from having children as they mostly have a lot of problems for taking care of themselves, let alone their child, which would probably also have Down's.

Must say I've seen some very disabled people of which I thought it would be a better idea to euthanize them then let them live.
In nature, how unpleasant it may sound, they wouldn't survive for long... as one can't barely move, hear, see, talk or think... that's no life at all.

I agree with you on the first paragraph

So hypothetically if you would get into a very bad accident and you lost your leggs,and were unable to communicate

due to brain damage then you think it '' would be a better idea to euthanize you then let you live ?

Well, I was talking about people being born heavily disabled in the first case...

But, if I had a huge car accident and I would be disabled like Christopher Reeve was, then it's ok to euthanize me. Or if the brain damage would be such, that I'm completely out of this world... First see how much recovery there can be made of course.. but I definately would opt out yes.

Wouldn't you..?

So if I get this right,quality of life merely depends on physicality for you.

You know who this right ?

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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 20:22 #88

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Yes, well... here you come with an extreme exception. :D He is fortunate enough his mind is still sharp and he is brilliant, so he can work on huge projects and stuff, travelling across the globe with all help available. That makes life a bit more worth living in that case.

People who don't have the options like he has and basically can't go anywhere wouldn't have a life at all.
For me it would be over and done for... don't know how other might feel, but that's my opinion.
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 21:32 #89

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Stephen Hawking
died and has been replaced


(See the pictures in this very interesting article)

It has to stop. It has gotten so bad, the rich are actually undercutting themselves. For money to be
worth anything there has to be something worth buying. The rich can no longer collect art, since they
have destroyed it. They can no longer have the joy of underwriting real science, since they have
destroyed it. They can't collect books or poetry, since they have destroyed both literature and poetry.
They can't enjoy the company of innocent youths, since they have destroyed the innocence of youth.
They can't enjoy love, because they have destroyed it for profit. They can't enjoy beautiful
architecture, because they have destroyed it. And they can't enjoy the feeling of a day well spent,
because their days aren't well spent. That is the thing about dirty money and a dirty conscience: no
matter how much you spend, you can't hire someone to clean it.


milesmathis.com/hawk3.pdf

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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 21:48 #90

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:

Stephen Hawking
died and has been replaced


(See the pictures in this very interesting article)

It has to stop. It has gotten so bad, the rich are actually undercutting themselves. For money to be
worth anything there has to be something worth buying. The rich can no longer collect art, since they
have destroyed it. They can no longer have the joy of underwriting real science, since they have
destroyed it. They can't collect books or poetry, since they have destroyed both literature and poetry.
They can't enjoy the company of innocent youths, since they have destroyed the innocence of youth.
They can't enjoy love, because they have destroyed it for profit. They can't enjoy beautiful
architecture, because they have destroyed it. And they can't enjoy the feeling of a day well spent,
because their days aren't well spent. That is the thing about dirty money and a dirty conscience: no
matter how much you spend, you can't hire someone to clean it.


milesmathis.com/hawk3.pdf

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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 13 May 2016 22:21 #91

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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 16 May 2016 20:45 #92

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''Alles Kranke ist Last'' All that is sick is a burden

The video's are In German,but just by watching you are able to get a good impression.





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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 17 May 2016 18:02 #93

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Deliberately ignoring the current facts, distorting what was said, demanding answers
to their manipulative questions ...
the usual suspects have to spread their typical Germanophobe hate propaganda
over and over and over again already since more than seven decades now on end,
apparently trying to bore the world to death, as if sucking us dry was not enough.


Here are two videos for you, Cinta, as you are rejecting to respond to the devastating
euthanasia situation in Holland today, as described on the previous pages, and because
they are most interesting in the context of the Reference threads below:




Milo Yiannopoulos - Assisted suicide devalues human life






Special Needs Abortion: A Holocaust



louderwithcrowder.com/20521-2/
louderwithcrowder.com/18612-2/




Ref on TZ:

- Steven Crowder - EXPOSED

- Milo Yiannopoulos - EXPOSED

:right: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Organs


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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 18 May 2016 18:07 #94

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I am as much responsable for the situation on euthanasia in my country,and you are for the influx of refugees in Germany Capish ?

You really love creating drama don't you;well I won't have any part in it dear.

Furthermore,I really do not understand why you keep avoiding to answer a few simple questions :dunno:
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 18 May 2016 18:11 #95

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Fwiw, imo, you don't get a choice when you come into this world, so you should at least get one re when you depart it, if that is what you want and you have no dependents.
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 20 May 2016 13:40 #96

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Pallative medicine / care is so good now that we don't really need euthanasia at all.
"Do Not Resuscitate"
is a far more ethical statement than
" Do Kill".
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 20 May 2016 13:43 #97

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Say you have no hope for the future and just want to check out early without your family suffering the stigma of being associated with a sinful suicide? Is mental torment sufficient reason to demand the ultimate palliative care?
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 20 May 2016 13:53 #98

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ragnarok wrote:
Say you have no hope for the future and just want to check out early without your family suffering the stigma of being associated with a sinful suicide? Is mental torment sufficient reason to demand the ultimate palliative care?

Palliative medicine cares for patients who are dying.
Euthanasia does not discriminate - it just kills.
Allowing a dying patient to die pain free and with dignity is a lot differnt to deliberately killing a patient who would not have otherwise died.
It'll be the thin end of the wedge if ever euthanasia is legalised here in Blighty.
We'd become no better than Belgians and that would be regressive.
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 20 May 2016 14:01 #99

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Erm, they would have otherwise died, only it'd be under the wheels of a bus in front of an audience, or somewhere isolated where their body will unlikely be found. If a dignified, pain-free alternative was available, wouldn't you rather see that as the chosen exit option?
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What are your thoughts on euthanasia? 20 May 2016 14:12 #100

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ragnarok wrote:
Erm, they would have otherwise died, only it'd be under the wheels of a bus in front of an audience, or somewhere isolated where their body will unlikely be found. If a dignified, pain-free alternative was available, wouldn't you rather see that as the chosen exit option?

Nope.
Someone has to do it.
That someone could be a Doctor or a Nurse.
If Euthanasia was legalised in the UK that someone might be a Doctor or a Nurse instructed to euthanise a patient by order of a court.
Not good IMO.
I'd not do it nor wish support to a system that could legally order me to do it.
'First do no harm' is an olden but golden medical motto.
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