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TOPIC: Sigmund Freud DEBUNKED

Sigmund Freud DEBUNKED 26 Aug 2014 19:34 #21

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Osho was a wise man - basically - and a truth loving human ... who made a fortune from speaking the truth and helping humans to free themselves (he was not responsible for them creating just new programmes or new matrixes from what he said) ... :rofl:





no more, no less.

At least he helped some of them to have fun - which is by far much more than Freud (Joy) ever did!
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''Sometimes [Bhagwan] would ask attractive women to strip off in front of him
and lie naked while he peered at them intently. Then, after satisfying himself,
he would ask them to get dressed again. He also had couples make love in
front of him, a definite case of voyeurism..''

''In the later years, in Poona, many sexual experiments were tried. Bhagwan
told one woman how to overcome her phobia of rats: she should indulge in
oral sex.... In another tantric session at Poona, the male participants had to
eat a ripe mango from between their female partners’ legs.
The mangoes were very popular with everyone (Milne, 1986).''

''In the midst of that revelry, vasectomies were “suggested” for the ashram men—
a quarter of whom complied.''

As to the characteristics which Bhagwan was looking for in his mediums, he soon explained:

''[O]nly women with large breasts could hope for the honor. “I have been tortured
by small-breasted women for many lives together,” he announced to a startled
audience, “and I will not do it in this life!” (Milne, 1986).''

''There were few legal ways in which a Westerner could earn money [to stay at
the Poona ashram], and before long many of the girls turned to prostitution....
The other main way of making money in those days was to mount a drug run
(Milne, 1986).
For the same financial reasons,''

''a large number of strippers working from London’s SoHo to San Francisco’s
North Beach were sannyasins (Strelley, 1987).''

''By the late 1970s and early ’80s, this particular “inner city path to spiritual
enlightenment” was beginning to have some predictable reported side-effects:''

''Three British sannyasins ... were arrested on smuggling charges in Paris in 1979.
The most ambitious known smuggling attempt was made in 1979 when fifty
kilograms of marijuana were packed into the frame and furnishings of a hippie-style
bus traveling from [Poona] to Europe. About twenty disciples had invested in the
deal and another twenty had worked on the bus. The contraband, however, was
discovered in Yugoslavia, and three sannyasins were put in jail for a year
(Mangalwadi, 1992).''

''In the midst of those difficulties, seeking to expand his work and desiring to
escape a reported $4 million in unpaid income taxes, Rajneesh quietly left India
for the United States in 1981, arriving via a 747 jet in New Jersey.''

''Pausing at the top of the departure stairs as he exited the plane, the sage
expansively proclaimed:

''I am the Messiah America has been waiting for (in Milne, 1986).''

Do read more about this guru.
www.strippingthegurus.com/stgsamplechapters/rajneesh.html
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Sigmund Freud DEBUNKED 05 Sep 2014 15:33 #22

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Russel Brand is a Marxist who hob knobs with the Goldsmiths.

There is a reason he dislikes Freudism and it's because it was an attack on orthodox Marxism.

As Freud came along with different information to present it's a bit rich to say he's been debunked, when perhaps some of his work has been shown to be wrong or partly wrong.
Freudo-Marxism

The first concerted attempt at an integration of Marx and Freud occurred in the 1920s and 1930s. At the time this was considered a bold and unconventional step. The Bolshevik regime had outlawed psychoanalysis, preferring the physiological reductionism of Ivan Pavlov as the orthodoxy. Although Trotsky had been sympathetic to psychoanalysis, his voice no longer counted after 1923. Instead, Lenin's prudish accusation that Freud was poking about in sexual matters was to be the orthodox Bolshevik view.

Within the psychoanalytic movement the integration of Freud and Marx was suggested by a few, but with little success. The most vociferous proponent was Wilhem Reich. However, by the mid 1930s, he had been expelled from the psychoanalytic movement as well as from the Communist Party. It was not until the resurgence of radical politics in the 1960s that Reich's views on sexual politics were re-examined.

It was around the intellectuals based at the recently formed Institute for Social Research in Germany (more commonly known as the Frankfurt School) that the main Freudo-Marxist debate took place. The attempt to introduce psychoanalysis into this school's own particular brand of Marxism was part of its desire to free itself of what it saw as the straightjacket of orthodox Marxism. The director of the Institute, Max Horkheimer, had had an interest in Freud from the 1920s. What attracted him to Freud was a desire to find a psychology different from the instrumental utilitarianism that he felt dominated Marxism.

However, the main work of forging links between Marx and Freud was carried out by two other members of the Frankfurt School: Erich Fromm and Herbert Marcuse. It was through Fromm, himself a psychoanalyst, that the Institute first attempted to reconcile Marx and Freud, in a series of articles that he wrote for their journal, beginning in 1932. But even before joining the Institute Fromm had written The Development of the Dogma of Christ in 1931, his first major statement of the problem.

It was only in the 1940s and 1950s that Marcuse acquired a serious interest in Freud, unveiling his views in 1955 with the publication of Eros and Civilization. Along with Reich's works, this formed the core of material that fuelled the debates in the 1960s and 1970s before the introduction of feminist theory into the Freud-Marx arena.

Although these three intellectuals shared a common interest in integrating Marx and Freud, their views on how this should be achieved were very different. The movement could not agree on even the basic requirements for integration. Fromm attacked Reich; Fromm attacked Marcuse; Marcuse attacked Fromm and Reich. It is hardly surprising, therefore, that the debate attracted only a few adherents of either Freud or Marx.

In Western Europe the end of the First World War sparked off a number of working class uprisings that seemed to some to herald the imminent overthrow of capitalism. But, with varying degrees of difficulty, these uprisings were put down. In the wake of these failures there followed the rise of Stalinism and of Fascism, both finding a significant level of support from the working class. To many Marxists such events were incomprehensible. The means of production were sufficiently developed to provide the objective conditions for socialism, yet the subjective side, working class consciousness, seemed to be moving in the opposite direction with socialist ideas becoming less and less attractive.

This divergence of objective and subjective was seen as suggesting a major deficiency in Marxist theory: an inadequate understanding of the individual and of how irrational ideology could be accepted, when it was clearly not in the interest of the working class. Socialist consciousness did not follow automatically with the growth of the means of production. Somehow working class consciousness could be manipulated to ensure that workers willingly accepted capitalist ideology and submission to authoritarian control. In the search for an answer to this most crucial of questions, Freud seemed appropriate with his emphasis on the role of the irrational and unconscious in human affairs, suggesting that capitalist ideology penetrated deep into the unconscious and repressed instincts that might otherwise challenge the social order.

www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1980s/1989/no-1023-november-1989/freud-and-marxism-2

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Sigmund Freud DEBUNKED 05 Sep 2014 17:27 #23

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Frog wrote:
And then there is the impact his work had on society as his nephew set out to exploit Sickman Freuds legacy.


PFIZIPFEI wrote:

THE BIG FREUD FAMILY



All rich, famous and influential - and thus most interested in keeping up the FREUD MYTH.



Ernst Ludwig Freud (6 April 1892 in Vienna – 7 April 1970 in London) was an Austrian architect and the fourth child of Austrian psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud and his German-born wife Martha Bernays. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Ludwig_Freud


Sir Clement Raphael Freud (24 April 1924 in Berlin – 15 April 2009), son of Ernst Ludwig Freud, was a British broadcaster, writer, politician and chef. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Freud


Matthew Freud (born 2 November 1963), son of Sir Clement Raphael Freud, husband of Rupert Murdoch's daughter Elisabeth Murdoch, is head of Freud Communications, an international public relations firm in the United Kingdom. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Freud


Emma Vallencey Freud OBE, (born 25 January 1962), daughter of Sir Clement Raphael Freud, is an English broadcaster and cultural commentator. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Freud




Stephen (Stephan) Gabriel Freud - The forgotten Freud: The lesser known brother of Clement and Lucian is the most splendidly eccentric of all
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1173064/The-forgotten-Freud-The-lesser-known-brother-Clement-Lucian-splendidly-eccentric-all.html



Lucian Michael Freud, OM, CH (8 December 1922 – 20 July 2011) was a German-born British painter. His works are noted for their psychological penetration, and for their often discomforting examination of the relationship between artist and model. Born in Berlin, Freud was the son of a German Jewish mother, Lucie (née Brasch), and an Austrian Jewish father, Ernst L. Freud, an architect. He was a grandson of Sigmund Freud, and elder brother of the late broadcaster, writer and politician Clement Freud (thus uncle of Emma and Matthew Freud) and the younger brother of Stephan Gabriel Freud. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucian_Freud


Bella Freud (born 17 April 1961) is a London-based fashion designer with a number of celebrity clients. She is the daughter of Bernardine Coverley and artist Lucian Freud and great granddaughter of the inventor of psychoanalysis Sigmund Freud. Her only full sibling is her sister, writer Esther Freud, who wrote the memoir of their hippie childhood in Morocco, Hideous Kinky. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_Freud


Esther Freud (born 2 May 1963) is a British novelist. Born in London, Freud is the daughter of painter Lucian Freud and Bernadine Coverley. She is also a great-granddaughter of Sigmund Freud and niece of Clement Freud. Freud has a sister, fashion designer Bella Freud, and a half-brother, Noah Woodman. Her uncle was the late politician Sir Clement Freud. She has two cousins in the media; Matthew and broadcaster Emma. She is married to actor David Morrissey, with whom she has three children, and maintains homes in London and Southwold. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Freud




Anton Walter Freud (3 April 1921 in Vienna, Austria – 8 February 2004, Oxted, England), grandson of Sigismund Schlomo Freud, was a chemical engineer and a member of the Royal Pioneer Corps and the British Special Operations Executive. He was the first child of Sigmund Freud’s eldest son Jean-Martin (Martin), a lawyer, and his wife Ernestine Drucker. He was named after Anton von Freund, a colleague of his grandfather. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Freud


David Anthony Freud, Baron Freud (born 24 June 1950) is a British journalist, businessman, Conservative politician and welfare adviser and is a Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Work and Pensions. He is a great grandson of Sigmund Freud, and son of Annette Krarup and Anton Walter Freud. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Freud,_Baron_Freud



Anna Freud, daughter of Sigmund (3 December 1895 – 9 October 1982), psychoanalist, co-founder of psychoanalytic child psychology en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Freud
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They seem to be very much attracted to the "crown" and the "coL".

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Sigmund Freud DEBUNKED 12 Nov 2014 18:34 #24

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Freud’s “psychoanalysis” is pejoratively known as the “Jewish Science.” It was rightly destroyed in Germany, Italy, and Austria, but lamentably, exiled throughout the rest of the world, including Christian America. The vanguard of the movement has remained to this day predominantly Jewish as it was from its very inception.

FREUD’S BOOKS WERE BURNED (and rightly so) in the May 1933 book burnings in Germany.

There was a general perception amongst Germans that Jewish intellectuals were subverting German culture and psychoanalysis was one aspect of this concern. A great deal of hostility to psychoanalysis centered on Freud’s advocacy of masturbation and pre-marital sex. Freud’s Jewish disciple, the German born Alfred Adler, advocated “bisexuality” as a means of integrating and healing childhood conflicts.

Carl Christian Clemen, a professor of ethnology at the University of Bonn, reacted strongly to Freud’s Anti-Christian book, The Future of an Illusion, in which Freud analyzed religious beliefs, (Christianity was Germany’s “religious belief!”), in terms of infantile needs and what Freud designated as the “Oedipus Complex,” a male child’s desire to murder his father in vying for the sexual attention of his mother.

Clemen decried the psychoanalytic tendency to find sex everywhere, even in the innocent mind of a little child, a tendency which he attributed to the Jewish composition of the movement.

Freud defined himself as “a fanatical Jew,” an avowed “Zionist,” who identified himself with the elitist Jewish social grouping in that unique cause of “doing battle against the enemies of the Jews.” But the true enemy of Christian culture and especially in America is Freud and his continuing apostolic succession of Jewish “social scientists.”



Source: www.realjewnews.com/?p=53
See also: The Sexual Decadence of Weimar Germany
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Sigmund Freud DEBUNKED 27 Nov 2016 14:28 #25

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RE: THE BIG FREUD FAMILY
(see post above)


What are the odds that Clement "Clam"/"Clem", the grandson of Ziggy Shlomo, will become even more (in)famous than his grandfather?







Born: April 24 1924 in Berlin

Died: April 15 2009 (age 84)

Married to: June Flewett (referred to as Jill)

Children: Five including Emma and Matthew Freud; 17 grandchildren




His early life

The grandson of psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud and brother of artist Lucian, Clement was born in Berlin in 1924, but fled to Britain with his Jewish family when the Nazis came to power.

After the war he trained as a chef at London’s Dorchester, before being made manager of the glamorous Martinez Hotel in Cannes.


His rise to fame

With his finger on the capital's showbiz pulse, he helped propel a number of young acts to stardom and later boasted of being the first person to book the now disgraced entertainer, Rolf Harris.

As one of the country’s first celebrity chefs, he became a regular on TV and became a household name thanks to a series of dog food adverts in which he starred alongside a bloodhound called Henry.


Political power

He later moved into journalism before beginning a 14-year career in the House of Commons in 1973, where he shared an office with Cyril Smith, who was subsequently exposed as a serial paedophile.


Accusations of grooming and sexual abuse

Two separate women came forward to allege that he groomed and sexually abused them when they were young girls.

Freud spent years abusing a girl who he brought up as a daughter, and violently raped a teenager while he was an MP.

His widow, Lady Freud, has apologised to his victims.


Source: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/sir-clement-freud-exposed-as-a-paedophile-as-police-urged-to-pro/


Did his widow cover up for his crimes?
No investigation?

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Stars pay tribute to Sir Clement - VIDEO


news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8001383.stm



Child sexual abuse allegations

In June 2016 allegations were made in Exposure: Abused and Betrayed – A Life Sentence, an ITV documentary broadcast on 15 June, that Freud was a child abuser in the late 1940s and the 1970s.[23][24] Two women came forward to accuse Freud of molesting them.[25] Sylvia Woosley said she was 11 when he began abusing her. The second woman, who remained anonymous, said that Freud groomed her from the age of 11, abused her at 14, and violently raped her at 18.[4][26]

On the day of the documentary broadcast, Lady Freud issued an apology to both women. She accepted the claims and issued a statement of sympathy for his victims, saying: "I sincerely hope they will now have some peace."[4][26]

A third woman, Vicky Hayes, has alleged that she was assaulted and raped by Freud.[27] It also emerged that Operation Yewtree had been passed Freud's name in 2012 when two alleged victims made accusations to the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC).[28]

Scotland Yard was examining the details of the allegations and detectives were said to be looking into the possibility that Freud had associated with other alleged abusers at the time of the claims.[29] Allegations have also been made of predatory behaviour towards female students during his time as Rector of the University of Dundee.[30]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Freud

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and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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