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TOPIC: ignorance is bliss

ignorance is bliss 04 Jun 2016 12:09 #1

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I recently found out the cement used on my crown contains fluoride.

I read slow release fluoride was added to some fillings, but didn't know about the cement.

Seems nothing is sacred anymore.

Ive seen plenty of warnings on toothpaste about not swallowing, how do they get away with this crap.


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ignorance is bliss 04 Jun 2016 23:19 #2

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The Mule wrote:
I recently found out the cement used on my crown contains fluoride.

I read slow release fluoride was added to some fillings, but didn't know about the cement.

Seems nothing is sacred anymore.

Ive seen plenty of warnings on toothpaste about not swallowing, how do they get away with this crap.



For real..?!

Which country are you from?

Holy shit.. will have to check if some of mine contain it as well...
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ignorance is bliss 04 Jun 2016 23:23 #3

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Stereotypical dentally challenged Brit chiming in.

I'm sensing an explanation for why our American cousins are dumber than we are, with their Colgate smiles, and cheesy "Have a nice day" acts.
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ignorance is bliss 04 Jun 2016 23:25 #4

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I know that with 3M fillings some of them have slow release fluoride, you can check it out on the 3M site.

No idea how long it lasts though, cant see it being very long if the filling itself isnt dissolving away, how much could physically be there? not much. Perhaps its just released for a little while because they believe it is beneficial for the repaired tooth and surrounds.

But yes the entire dental establishment is very heavily pro-fluoride so its tough to escape it when you need em.
I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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ignorance is bliss 05 Jun 2016 01:32 #5

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Toothpaste is at minimum a waste of time and money. Unless you like that 'minty fresh' taste.

All of the work is done by simply brushing.
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ignorance is bliss 06 Jun 2016 01:03 #6

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Possibly wrote:
Toothpaste is at minimum a waste of time and money. Unless you like that 'minty fresh' taste.

All of the work is done by simply brushing.

For real?

Lol, never thought about that actually.

Am wondering if this is true... because cleaning the floor with water and soap makes the floor cleaner then just mopping with a dry cloth right..?
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ignorance is bliss 06 Jun 2016 01:11 #7

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novum wrote:
I know that with 3M fillings some of them have slow release fluoride, you can check it out on the 3M site.

No idea how long it lasts though, cant see it being very long if the filling itself isnt dissolving away, how much could physically be there? not much. Perhaps its just released for a little while because they believe it is beneficial for the repaired tooth and surrounds.

But yes the entire dental establishment is very heavily pro-fluoride so its tough to escape it when you need em.

Yea... I remember when I was a kid that 'fluoride treatment' was given every once in a while. So basically one had to sit there with 2 polysterene bits in the mouth which were filled with fluoride. One could choose different tastes, however it still tasted chemical.

And at home everyone had a pot with small fluoride pills in them, for after toothbrushing.

Damn man... just starting to realize I could have been a rocket scientist if I skipped all that fluoride. :chuckle:
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ignorance is bliss 06 Jun 2016 01:11 #8

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ignorance is bliss


Great thread!

Thanks for starting it.

TRUTH ZONE members did not know that there is fuoride in toothpaste up to now.

Thank you very much again , The Mole!


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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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ignorance is bliss 06 Jun 2016 01:12 #9

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Flare wrote:

Am wondering if this is true... because cleaning the floor with water and soap makes the floor cleaner then just mopping with a dry cloth right..?

My American dentist told me that. And there are a lot of pearly whites passing in and out of his office. :)

“The TRUTH about Toothpaste” by Vicky Flint, RDH
THE BOTTOM-LINE SCOOP: TOOTHPASTE IS NOT SOAP.

There. Now you know. The truth is: you would do just fine without toothpaste at all. You don’t need it. What? We don’t need it? That’s right. Plaque (“biofilm”) is sticky. Think of peanut butter on a knife. Think about getting peanut butter off of a knife. You can rinse it in water, smear soap on it, blast it with high-pressure water, and swish it through an anti-peanut butter preparation – and still have peanut butter on that knife. These actions, of course, are analogous to rinsing your mouth out, smearing toothpaste across your teeth, using an oral irrigator, and using mouthwash.

The most effective way to remove sticky biofilm (and peanut butter) is to scrape it off. That is best accomplished with a toothbrush and floss (tooth brushing reaches about 70% of tooth surfaces)."

dentalhygienehaven.com/toothpaste-truths/
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ignorance is bliss 06 Jun 2016 02:01 #10

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Yep... brushing your teeth with water works well, as does keeping your mouth alkaline with ph8 water after eating and drinking.. ie rinsing well, even use some tongue to clean em.. i reckon it was made for it.

My dentist couldnt believe the state of my teeth when i went in to fix a broken front tooth (from being hit, ie trauma, not deterioration).. i told him i hadnt been to a dentist since i was a kid and that i wasnt a religious brusher. But i told him what i did instead, rinsing well often with ph8 water, and he figured thats why they were in such good condition.

He thought acidity phucks teeth up more than anything, esp acidic remains of food and drink. If you have alkaline water handy and use it liberally its a good counter.

I stopped drinking and cooking with mains water for the most part in my late teens because the circles i was in knew how bad the water was where i am. I stopped using toothpaste even before that... something about it didnt gel with me.. but id brush with water.

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ignorance is bliss


Great thread!

Thanks for starting it.

TRUTH ZONE members did not know that there is fluoride in toothpaste up to now.

Thank you very much again , The Mole!


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Phiz are you on the fluoride? :larf: The OP and ensuing discussion was about cement type fillers/fillings, not toothpaste. Youre seeing toothpaste like you see hasbaras :P
I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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ignorance is bliss 08 Jun 2016 03:18 #11

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Baking Soda mixed with a little bit of water > toothpaste

I got really sick as a kid after a fluoride treatment at the dentist. :(
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ignorance is bliss 09 Jun 2016 16:14 #12

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Well this is the thing I didnt mention in my post ........ I have been really ill since I had this crown put it.

Its a metal crown tho I had it done on the NHS :facepalm: & my PSA (psoriatic arthritis) has flared up real bad since.

Im not sure if was the Nikel in the crown, the root canal or the slow release fluoride cement thats done it, but im now going to a private holistic dentist & having the metal removed next week & a porcelain one put it.
What I should have done in the 1st place.

Not sure this will help but I am rather desperate now so fingers crossed.

Dentists are dodgy bastards & will always start onto you about whats proven or unproven scientific to clear their consciences when you bring up mercury or fluoride.
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ignorance is bliss 09 Jun 2016 16:20 #13

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Ceramics is the way to go.
I never knew NHS dentists still used 'metal' for fillings or crowns.
Ours is a NHS dentist and if you insist on ceramics they use ceramics.
I had all my metal fillings replaced with ceramics on the NHS some years ago , felt better for it too.
They 'tasted'.
Ceramics don't taste of anything.
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ignorance is bliss 09 Jun 2016 18:14 #14

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GMP wrote:
Ceramics is the way to go.
I never knew NHS dentists still used 'metal' for fillings or crowns.
Ours is a NHS dentist and if you insist on ceramics they use ceramics.
I had all my metal fillings replaced with ceramics on the NHS some years ago , felt better for it too.
They 'tasted'.
Ceramics don't taste of anything.

www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/nhs-fillings-and-crowns.aspx?categoryid=74

Unless you pay the full wack thats the options you get here GMP.
I should have just paid up at the time.
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