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TOPIC: Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care

Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 23 May 2019 17:57 #161

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Hey Lucinda, if the pills were doing you no good you should have flushed them down the toilet like I did when my quack once put me on Prozac anti-depressants even though I wasn't depressed..:)
You obviously do not understand.

She was on a medication for her thyroid.

That's how she got a bad reaction.

Then, she got caught in the psychiatric system.

And flushing anti-depressants down the toilet, as in removing yourself cold turkey, can get you into a lot of trouble.
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 23 May 2019 18:39 #162

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This video took a lot of mental preparation. It's been several years since I was harmed by psychiatry in a facility in Montana, and the memories of it still haunt me to this day. There is a massive epidemic of horrific abuse in our mental health system, and it fills me with dread to see it going so unnoticed by the public.

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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 04:25 #163

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Ugh wrote:
Hey Lucinda, if the pills were doing you no good you should have flushed them down the toilet like I did when my quack once put me on Prozac anti-depressants even though I wasn't depressed..:)
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You obviously do not understand.
She was on a medication for her thyroid.
That's how she got a bad reaction.
Then, she got caught in the psychiatric system.
And flushing anti-depressants down the toilet, as in removing yourself cold turkey, can get you into a lot of trouble.

At 1:44 Lucinda says her psychiatrist told her to stop taking the medication.
Then at 2:30 she says "if I take any more of these pills it'll kill me".

So if she's still taking them against the advice of her shrink and me, no wonder she's in a mess.
Anyway we need to hear the shrinks side of the story too.
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 04:37 #164

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Smith R quote-This video took a lot of mental preparation. It's been several years since I was harmed by psychiatry in a facility in Montana, and the memories of it still haunt me to this day.

No offence mate, but we need to hear the shrinks side of the story too.
It seems you were a wild kid at school when you were 11 so they put you in a facility, but why didn't you simply stop being wild, then they couldn't have touched you?
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 11:27 #165

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Ugh wrote:
It seems you were a wild kid at school when you were 11 so they put you in a facility, but why didn't you simply stop being wild, then they couldn't have touched you?
Sounds like your religious faith has completely abandoned you.
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 12:44 #166

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For this video, we are asked to turn on subtitles because the street noise makes it difficult to hear:
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Published on May 22, 2019

PLEASE ENABLE SUB-TITLES TO READ THE PSYCHIATRISTS' RESPONSES. (Sorry for the poor audio quality)

This video was created as part of the 2019 Protest of the American Psychiatric Association. To learn more and watch the rest of the psychiatric survivors' testimonials, visit: protestAPA.com.

To learn how you can help fight for human rights in the mental health system, visit mindfreedom.org.

Produced by Jim Flannery and an anonymous camera person and editor.
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 13:22 #167

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Published on May 22, 2019

PLEASE ENABLE SUB-TITLES TO READ THE PSYCHIATRISTS' RESPONSES. (Sorry for the poor audio quality)

This video was created as part of the 2019 Protest of the American Psychiatric Association. To learn more and watch the rest of the psychiatric survivors' testimonials, visit: protestAPA.com.

To learn how you can help fight for human rights in the mental health system, visit mindfreedom.org.

Produced by Jim Flannery and an anonymous camera person and editor.
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". . .of a lot of patients with psychiatric illness that can't form a trusting therapeutic relationship. . . "

That psychiatrist is blaming the patient.

The fact is, psychiatrists today are not trained to form a relationship with their patients; they're trained to put a label on them and then drug them.

It's the medical schools that need to change, not the patient's attitude.
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 15:03 #168

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Ugh wrote:
It seems you were a wild kid at school when you were 11 so they put you in a facility, but why didn't you simply stop being wild, then they couldn't have touched you?
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Sounds like your religious faith has completely abandoned you.

Religion's got nothing to do with it missus; if somebody acts like a nutter they fall into the clutches of the psychiatry system, so if they stop acting crazy the system can't touch 'em, it's not rocket science..:)
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 15:12 #169

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Ugh wrote:
Religion's got nothing to do with it missus; if somebody acts like a nutter they fall into the clutches of the psychiatry system, so if they stop acting crazy the system can't touch 'em, it's not rocket science
Now you're getting hostile, aren't you?

Where's your Jesus guide?

He's out of the picture all of a sudden.

It's rocket science if you just don't get it, which you don't.

Your posts are off-topic.
Last Edit: 24 May 2019 15:12 by Connect Dots. Reason: Typo
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 17:25 #170

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Now you're getting hostile, aren't you?
Where's your Jesus guide?
He's out of the picture all of a sudden.
It's rocket science if you just don't get it, which you don't.
Your posts are off-topic.

I can post again all the feedback I get from people who I've helped over the years if you like..:)
And as I said, the Samaritans wanted me to join them because in their words- "You're good with people".

PS- Not everybody listens to me of course, they're the ones who stay messed up, and Jesus said not to waste any more of our time on them, they had their chance-
Jesus said:-"If any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them" (Mark 6:11)
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 19:00 #171

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Connect Dots wrote:
Ugh wrote:
Religion's got nothing to do with it missus; if somebody acts like a nutter they fall into the clutches of the psychiatry system, so if they stop acting crazy the system can't touch 'em, it's not rocket science
Now you're getting hostile, aren't you?

Where's your Jesus guide?

He's out of the picture all of a sudden.

It's rocket science if you just don't get it, which you don't.

Your posts are off-topic.

Someone in 2019 quoting a doctored book allegedly written almost 2000 years ago and taking that "Jesus" dude as factual, is not too off-topic in a thread on psychiatric problems... :P
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 19:24 #172

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Gaia wrote:
Someone in 2019 quoting a doctored book allegedly written almost 2000 years ago and taking that "Jesus" dude as factual, is not too off-topic in a thread on psychiatric problems... :P
This is a serious thread that is intended to open the eyes of the public about the horror story that is psychiatry today.

It is a serious topic.

It is as serious as the horror story that is modern day medicine cancer treatment.

It is as serious as the horror story that is Big Pharma with their drugs that merely mask symptoms and then cause side effects which are then medicated causing more side effects.

On-topic posts will address psychiatry and will not spin off into religion.
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 24 May 2019 20:30 #173

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On-topic posts will address psychiatry and will not spin off into religion.

But Christians are well-balanced, fearless, goodnatured and not prone to mental problems like nonchristians because Christianity WORKS-
"Our gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power"- (1 Thess 1:5)
"I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want" (Philippians 4:12)

But sadly some people are in the grip of their personal demons which poison their mind against Christianity.
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 25 May 2019 09:23 #174

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Connect Dots wrote:
Ugh wrote:
God said- "Forget the former things; do not dwell on the past.
See, I am doing a new thing!
Now it springs up; do you not perceive it?
I am making a way in the desert and streams in the wasteland"
(Isaiah 43:18 )
To the contrary, distressed people need to bring out from their subconsious to the conscious mind the traumas of their past in order to release them.
Couldn't agree more!

Is there a technique for doing this?

EMDR Therapy Uses Eye Movements to Overcome Trauma, Anxiety, Phobias

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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 25 May 2019 20:12 #175

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Gaia wrote:
Connect Dots wrote:
Ugh wrote:
Religion's got nothing to do with it missus; if somebody acts like a nutter they fall into the clutches of the psychiatry system, so if they stop acting crazy the system can't touch 'em, it's not rocket science
Now you're getting hostile, aren't you?

Where's your Jesus guide?

He's out of the picture all of a sudden.

It's rocket science if you just don't get it, which you don't.

Your posts are off-topic.

Someone in 2019 quoting a doctored book allegedly written almost 2000 years ago and taking that "Jesus" dude as factual, is not too off-topic in a thread on psychiatric problems... :P
"Everything's faked, staged, hoaxed, nobody dieded" - Gaia's worldview in a nutshell
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 25 May 2019 21:30 #176

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Rocco wrote:
Gaia wrote:
Connect Dots wrote:
Ugh wrote:
Religion's got nothing to do with it missus; if somebody acts like a nutter they fall into the clutches of the psychiatry system, so if they stop acting crazy the system can't touch 'em, it's not rocket science
Now you're getting hostile, aren't you?

Where's your Jesus guide?

He's out of the picture all of a sudden.

It's rocket science if you just don't get it, which you don't.

Your posts are off-topic.

Someone in 2019 quoting a doctored book allegedly written almost 2000 years ago and taking that "Jesus" dude as factual, is not too off-topic in a thread on psychiatric problems... :P
"Everything's faked, staged, hoaxed, nobody dieded" - Gaia's worldview in a nutshell

He mentally never recovered after finding out the Holocaust is a hoax and since then on believes literally everything is fake and hoaxed.
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Rethinking the Current Paradigm of Psychiatric Care 26 May 2019 00:13 #177

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Flare wrote:
Rocco wrote:
Gaia wrote:
Connect Dots wrote:
Ugh wrote:
Religion's got nothing to do with it missus; if somebody acts like a nutter they fall into the clutches of the psychiatry system, so if they stop acting crazy the system can't touch 'em, it's not rocket science
Now you're getting hostile, aren't you?

Where's your Jesus guide?

He's out of the picture all of a sudden.

It's rocket science if you just don't get it, which you don't.

Your posts are off-topic.

Someone in 2019 quoting a doctored book allegedly written almost 2000 years ago and taking that "Jesus" dude as factual, is not too off-topic in a thread on psychiatric problems... :P
"Everything's faked, staged, hoaxed, nobody dieded" - Gaia's worldview in a nutshell

He mentally never recovered after finding out the Holocaust is a hoax and since then on believes literally everything is fake and hoaxed.
Finding out your grandpa hoaxed his own death must've been a shocker
You can't fix stupid
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