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TOPIC: YouTube censorship

YouTube censorship 28 Aug 2017 12:22 #1

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I guess it;s up to YouTube/Google who/what they want to censor, as owners do censor their platforms to suit. (cough cough)

I do have an issue with Photobucket as they have disabled third party hosting unless you pay up for a service upgrade.

So now all my, and other people who have not upgraded their PB account have their forum images (when using PB) hidden like this.


Photobucket has done this to all their third party hosting images from non-upgraded users across the internet retrospectively....

...not only is it annoying but they've made it so they have the bank details etc etc of anyone using their service or all your previous photos are away...I've noticed it here with my (when I've used PB) photos but also on other peoples posts on forums such as international skeptics, Lets roll, and so on...So if you want to use their service you have to sort of declare who you are, and pay.

Here's an article about the above issue...
The key feature of a Photobucket account we're talking about here is called "3rd Party Hosting." It allows you to embed images from Photobucket in another location on the Internet, e.g. in a forum post or on a website.

As Norvic Philatelics discovered, Photobucket changed its terms and conditions and removed the 3rd Party Hosting feature from the lower subscription tiers. If you want to continue using that feature then a Photobucket Plus 500 subscription is required. It costs $39.99 per month or $399 per year.
uk.pcmag.com/webcom/90124/news/photobucket-breaks-image-links-across-the-internet
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YouTube censorship 28 Aug 2017 13:09 #2

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I know about the bucket.. its destroyed entire threads on some forums, it looks like a never ending stream of your pic above.

I suppose i can understand it, they need to make money to cover the bandwidth.. it sucks for alot of people though.

I use imgur and they might just do the same one day.
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YouTube censorship 28 Aug 2017 14:20 #3

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There is a way around it but you gotta be sneaky.

I use this for image hosting xomf.com/ you don't even need to sign up/log in, you just visit the site and use it to host your images, but it has not tools for editing etc, so I use Photobucket if I want to edit. alter, resize, draw on, etc etc, and then when my image ready to use as a forum image, I take a screen shot of the photobucket image, save it in my computer, and then use xomf to host it here, or wherever, thus Photobucket can't block it, it's a bit more faffing about but only takes a minute when you have your sniping tool pinned to your lower task bar.

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YouTube censorship 29 Aug 2017 07:46 #4

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Regarding Bitchute, i did some code tweak and we can now embed bitchute vids.

I hope to see peeps start embedding those and using it instead of youtube.

Does bitch have a large selection of Hitler vids? Otherwise Flare will have to find another way to spam the forum.
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YouTube censorship 29 Aug 2017 07:54 #5

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Remind me again, why are we not using YouTube? Someone has a YouTube vid on his forum signature.. Does that mean he's a Jew :dunno:
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YouTube censorship 29 Aug 2017 07:59 #6

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Bobby Batter wrote:
Remind me again, why are we not using YouTube?

How The CIA Made Google

www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-28/how-cia-made-google


And i didnt say we are not using youtube per se, what i am looking at is alternatives going forward. Im not telling anybody what to do and people are free to post youtube if they like...

... but eventually Youtube will just contain videos approved by the state and we will have too look elsewhere for the samizdat.
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YouTube censorship 29 Aug 2017 08:10 #7

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So you mean if we don't use YouTube or Google then we avoid the detection of the CIA, should they want to visit the forum?
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The physical network that carries Internet traffic between different computer systems is the Internet backbone. In the early days of the Internet, ARPANET served as the system's backbone. Today, several large corporations provide the routers and cable that make up the Internet backbone. These companies are upstream Internet Service Providers (ISPs). That means that anyone who wants to access the Internet must ultimately work with these companies, which include:

UUNET
Level 3
Verizon
AT&T
Qwest
Sprint
IBM

computer.howstuffworks.com/internet/basics/who-owns-internet1.htm
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YouTube censorship 29 Aug 2017 08:35 #9

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Bobby Batter wrote:
So you mean if we don't use YouTube or Google then we avoid the detection of the CIA, should they want to visit the forum?

No i dont mean that, you said that not me.

They collect data, we can perhaps make it more difficult for them... that said, even if they collect it through other means eg what you listed above, the fact remains that they are censoring content.

So if one wants to see that censored content they must go elsewhere.

And fwiw people like molyneaux and sargon of akkadd arent nazis, they dont big up hitler, and theyre still getting spanked on the mainstream sites, so for many people its not about not being allowed to be a nazi, its getting to the point where you have to be left wing and PC or else.
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YouTube censorship 29 Aug 2017 08:37 #10

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I split the thread btw because my original intent was for that thread to be technical of sorts, and not have the tech stuff buried by other things... i even considered having it in the FAQ or tech section when i made it but initially chose general for perhaps more exposure. So that thread can stay somewhat techy and we can argue here. :larf: :facepalm:
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I suggest you have a look at the Brave webpage on Wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser) look at the developers, and see what other pies they have their fingers in.

For example; ''Yan Zhu studied physics at MIT[2]. She worked for Yahoo as a security engineer from 2014 to 2015, is currently a software developer at Brave (web browser)''

''Brendan Eich (/ˈaɪk/; born July 4, 1961)[1] is an American technologist and creator of the JavaScript programming language. He co-founded the Mozilla project,[2] the Mozilla Foundation and the Mozilla Corporation, and served as the Mozilla Corporation's chief technical officer and briefly its chief executive officer.[3] He is the CEO of Brave Software''
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novum wrote:
Bobby Batter wrote:
So you mean if we don't use YouTube or Google then we avoid the detection of the CIA, should they want to visit the forum?

No i dont mean that, you said that not me.

They collect data, we can perhaps make it more difficult for them... that said, even if they collect it through other means eg what you listed above, the fact remains that they are censoring content.

So if one wants to see that censored content they must go elsewhere.

And fwiw people like molyneaux and sargon of akkadd arent nazis, they dont big up hitler, and theyre still getting spanked on the mainstream sites, so for many people its not about not being allowed to be a nazi, its getting to the point where you have to be left wing and PC or else.

It was a question not a statement

What makes you think that Brave or Bithchute will be any better, or make anything more difficult for 'they/them' to censor, do you think 'they' don't know about Brave or Bitchute, or that those providers go sort of 'unregulated' etc? How do you know that it's not a trick to get us off YouTube etc, and onto these other platforms, where the 'they' don't even have to bother searching for us, we#ll be found at those locations, it's a bit like herding imo. Are you a shepherd?
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Nope, not a shepherd, you can keep using youtube for all i care. People are having their videos blocked, pulled or their reach greatly reduced so they have been marked regardless.

And i read about Brave yes.... i had a read on their site and other places before i installed it. Tell you what, if we even assume theyre all the same shit, its still faster than firefox. :larf:

Sometimes i just have to take things at face value though.. the other two, chrome and ff, have implicitly stated they are part of filtering what is deemed to be real news.. ie the establishment news.
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A bit like i've been marked on TruthZone, had my posts pulled etc etc... and my reach greatly reduced.

We can still read about how bad the Commies are and what a good guy Hitler was all over Google, and view many such YouTube video on that matter, and all about what great guys the Alt Right are, and whatever else, as for filtering fake news, well they would consider this forum and many like it as fake news, but it comes up alright on Google search, so does InfoWars, David Duke, Max Igan, PodCast Icke, and many many others.

As far as I'm aware Google were going to mark what they deem as fake news with a symbol rather than block it, but until we see the policy of YouTube and why exactly they have blocked some videos we can't really judge without being in full knowledge of the facts.

But I don't see any difference to YouTube, if I want to view a topic I place it in the search engine, press enter, and there it is.
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I found this information about YouTube blocking etc.
How to tell why a video was blocked:
The easiest way to tell why your video was blocked is often just to go to your Video Manager panel and click on the link to the video, which will then bring up an error message which will say why it was blocked. You may also have gotten an email from YouTube telling you why the video was blocked.
You should also check the account status section of your account settings. This page will say whether you are in "good standing" in three categories: community guidelines, copyright strikes, and Content ID claims. After three "strikes" under any of these categories,your account may be terminated (though I have been unable to verify if this is the case with Content ID strikes). Regular copyright strikes result from a DMCA takedown notice being sent against one of your videos. You can also be in "bad standing" from Content ID claims which result in a global block on a video rather than merely monetizing it or blocking it in a few specific countries. This may result in a 15 minute limit being imposed on the length of newly uploaded videos and the disabling of other features like unlisted videos and Creative Commons licenses--penalties which also result from DMCA copyright strikes.
Go to your My Videos panel and check under Content ID Matches. This will be the main way to identify videos that were blocked by YouTube's automated filter rather than a DMCA notice.

Community Guidelines Violations - Because YouTube is a private website run by a private corporation, they are not obligated to allow all forms of speech protected by the 1st Amendment, and can block any video which in their opinion violates the site's rules. Videos are usually removed for Community Guidelines violations when they are violent, pornographic, or "hate speech." This results in a "strike" on your account which is separate from copyright strikes. According to YouTube, "The first strike on an account is considered a warning. If an account receives two strikes within a six month period, the ability to post new content to YouTube from that account is disabled for two weeks. If there are no further issues, full privileges are restored automatically after the two week period. If an account receives a third Community Guidelines strike within six months (before the first strike has expired) the account is terminated." While these types of removals are not the focus of this tutorial, there is an appeal process if you believe your video was removed in error. You can find more information about that process

Content ID Match - YouTube's Content ID system automatically scans videos as they are uploaded for copyrighted material and blocks access to videos containing material which copyright owners have told YouTube to block. This system may either block access to a video entirely, or merely mute the audio (depending on whether there is a video or audio match), in which case the video will still be playable but with no sound. Alternatively, Content ID may "monetize" videos, in which case adds will play next to the video and the copyright owner will get a share of the ad revenue. Monetized videos are also often blocked from viewing on mobile devices and sometimes blocked from being embedded on other websites. Because this system blocks all uses of copyrighted content indiscriminately, there is a high chance it will block material that is in fact "fair use" under U.S. copyright law, and you can easily get your video restored by disputing the content ID match. The copyright claimant is then given the chance to "confirm" or "reinstate" their claim, which you can then appeal using a second dispute process. If the copyright claimant still disagrees with your dispute, they can then file a DMCA notice against your video, invoking the DMCA notice and counter-notice process described below.

DMCA Takedown Notice/Copyright Strike - This is where copyright owners have filed a formal demand with YouTube that your specific video be taken down because it infringes their copyright. While content ID matches are entirely automatic and are also restored automatically, if a video was blocked by a DMCA notice it (at least usually) means that an actual person has looked at your video and decided it is infringing. Contesting these is thus somewhat more likely to result in a lawsuit if the copyright owner is really serious about keeping your video off YouTube. However as mentioned above, no regular YouTube user has ever been sued over a video. The process for getting a video restored that was blocked by this method is considerably more complicated, since you have to file a formal DMCA Counter-notice. The copyright owner then has 10-14 business days to notify YouTube that they intend to sue you to seek an injunction against your video; otherwise they will restore the video. Unless you file a counter-notice, DMCA notices result in a copyright strike on your account. While these usually expire after six months, if you get three copyright strikes within that time, your account will be terminated. As long as there is an active strike on your account, you may be unable to upload videos longer than 15 minutes, post unlisted or Creative Commons licensed videos, or appeal reinstated Content ID claims.
fairusetube.org/guide-to-youtube-removals/2-how-video-blocked


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Have you heard of Epic Privacy Browser Macca?
There are plenty of different ways you can ensure security and privacy in your Web browser. You can delete your history after each use, for example, or use your browser's history-free private browsing mode. You can add a Do Not Track plug-in, or hide your IP address by going through a proxy. Or... you can simply download the free Epic Privacy Browser and get all the privacy features imaginable, all of them active by default.

Built on the Chromium platform, Epic Privacy Browser doesn't allow plug-ins, retains no history, and blocks third-party cookies. With a single click, you can redirect your Web surfing through Epic's own built-in proxy, thereby hiding your IP address. Epic always broadcasts the industry standard "Do Not Track" message, but also actively works to detect and block ad networks, social networks, and Web analytics systems that track your surfing activity. Across the board, it's designed for privacy.
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No i hadnt heard of that one, will give it a look :thumbup:

I like the built in proxy premise.
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I noticed that there's a new member called 'Stoic School' or something, well if we take that Stoicist approach; we must see the opportunity within the idea that YouTube is becoming an obstacle for free speech (if you think that it is)

I shall quote someone who was probably one the most influential Stoic of all time, Marcus Aurelius; “The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way.

So let's say YouTube is actually doing what you suggest, or will be doing so in the foreseeable future, so it becomes an impediment for free speech, then we use YouTube for free speech within it's boundaries, whatever they are, I think I posted the present situation two posts above, so if you want to post outwith the boundaries of YouTube, you do that elsewhere, but it does not mean that you have to avoid YouTube altogether. When you use YouTube you use it according to it's obstacles, or you find a way to navigate them, but then don't yell 'censorship' if you screw up your obstacle navigation.

If you use Bitchute, you'll probably enjoy more freedom of speech whilst it is at this stage of growth, but as you probably already know, as it grows, it will be harder regulated. So the balance is between regulation and growth.

Let's take me for an example of Stoicism, I'm being targeted here, have my reach diminished etc, thus I don't have the issue with YouTube that you do, I'm being censored to that degree anyway, so perceive no big issue with YouTube, whist you are free here, not only to post as you wish but to confine others to segments of the forum, or to remove posting privileges, so compared to your reach on this forum, you will find YouTube to be an obstacle for you, whist me, well YouTube is no different to TruthZone in that aspect, or imagine someone living in North Korea, they wouldn't find YouTube to be all that censoring, it's a bit like you're spoilt with your free speech allowance and you're sort of over reacting, whist for me it's the same old same old... I'm used to it.

So for me the impediments (as mentioned by Marcus Aurelius) have become the way, the quicker you get your head around that and adapt to it, the happier you will be living in such an online experience.
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The difference between you here and youtube though is that you can post pretty much whatever you like, within reason, in terms of your political / ideological positions despite being restricted to certain areas sometimes.

When i say free speech within reason, i mean calls for violence (eg cultsmasher style ) or posts promoting harming children etc etc or sometimes OTT defaming of others with no evidence will be removed from the boards, but in terms of political or ideological positions i dont wish to stop anyone.. from ultimate seeker and his maoist ways to pfiz wanting a 4th reich led by someone who is damn near a reincarnation of dolfy and nothing less would do, cheered on by millions of people with smiley faces who look like they came from the 1940's ... .you get the point.

Whereas youtube is hitting the right wing lets face it. And plenty of them arent even nazis or national socialists or white seperatists, but sometimes speak about topics that are uncomfortable for the establishment.

There is free speech on the internet in abundance if you know where to look regarding written text.. but when it comes to submitting videos, not so much, hence all these alternatives being discussed recently.

Youtube/google kind of sucked some people in too in a sense, content creators putting large amounts of effort into their youtube accounts and videos and getting some money for that, ive no issue with that, if people have talent and can pull an audience they deserve to make a buck from my pov... the issue though is when such platforms try and pull rank because of peoples politics and then hit them in the hip pocket... i can totally see why there is a growing movement to create alternatives, and it remains to be seen if the authorites are going to be able to contain all the newbs...

because i feel google and youtube were built from the outset by the authorites, and it took a while for people to catch on, but enough have now... Googles parent company is called Alphabet inc ffs .. as in alphabet agency.

1st amendment still stands so then its become a matter of leftist silicon valley tech companies deny people service because of their own personal poltics, but with 1A still standing , those to the right can create their own platforms and in theory not face persecution.. plenty of litmus tests on that coming to a head right now.. including the founders of GAB for example, who dont strike me as leftists and are part of the silicone valley rebellion.
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As I already quoted ''Community Guidelines Violations - Because YouTube is a private website run by a private corporation, they are not obligated to allow all forms of speech protected by the 1st Amendment''

That's not a leftist legislation, it's a corporate one ^

Well the way I see it, I was posting contrary to your Alt right preferences, and your pay=to=ad=my=blog buddy complained and here I am, with my forum reach constricted, so i'm not as free to post whatever I like on the forum as you say, unless I want to have posting privileges removed for doing so, and have not done the Cultsmasher thing.

The point you missed is about the Stoic philosophy/practise, which is basically if you're used to being sanctioned/censored/punished or whatever you wish to call it, that becomes the way, so then if YouTube do the same to me, it's nothing new, and unless I fit with their shit they will impose a sanction etc... You on the other hand are not posting from the perspective of someone who is already targeted and has that as his path, his way, of using such online facilities! So when I see what you say YouTube are doing, and that you are over reacting (in my opinion) because I'm already used to being in that situation and dealing with those who impose it, on the other hand, you're here with complete freedom to post and act as you like, so of course you'll find your findings of YouTube hard to stomach.

''Seneca, who enjoyed great wealth as the adviser of Nero, suggested that we ought to set aside a certain number of days each month to practice poverty. Take a little food, wear your worst clothes, get away from the comfort of your home and bed. Put yourself face to face with want, he said, you’ll ask yourself “Is this what I used to dread?''

YouTube have shown you the path on the page I screengrabbed a few posts above, It's about time you understood, if you're going to use a private corporations software they can remove any content they want, I think they don't move much which is decent and within copyright limits.
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