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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 17 Oct 2017 20:28 #1

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Exclusive: Neo-Nazi and National Front organiser quits movement, opens up about Jewish heritage, comes out as gay

A white supremacist active as recently as the start of this year says today he is publicly renouncing 40 years of hate. Speaking on Channel 4 News he comes out as gay for the first time – and admits to a violent past.

After a lifetime of involvement with the far-right Kevin Wilshaw announces on Channel 4 News that he is leaving the movement – at the same time publicly coming out as gay.


17 Oct 2017 UK
Exclusive: Neo-Nazi and National Front organiser quits movement, opens up about Jewish heritage, comes out as gay
Paraic O'Brien Correspondent

A white supremacist active as recently as the start of this year says today he is publicly renouncing 40 years of hate. Speaking on Channel 4 News he comes out as gay for the first time – and admits to a violent past.

After a lifetime of involvement with the far-right Kevin Wilshaw announces on Channel 4 News that he is leaving the movement – at the same time publicly coming out as gay.

The well known National Front organiser in the 1980s was still active in white supremacist groups earlier this year – including speaking at events.

But tonight on Channel 4 News he explains for the very first time why he is publicly disavowing the movement – sharing his secrets, explaining how he was both a Neo-Nazi and of Jewish heritage , while admitting to violent acts and what motivated his hatred.

Jewish heritage

Kevin Wilshaw also opens up about his Jewish mother.

“She was part Jewish, maiden name was Benjamin, we have Jewish blood on that side.

On an application form to join the National Front, he wrote about his hatred of “the Jews”.

“That term ‘the Jews’ is the global faceless mass of people you can’t personalise it, not individuals. That’s the generalisation that leads to 6 million people being deliberately murdered.

“I didn’t have many friends at school, I wanted to be a member of a group of people that had an aim, and I thought getting involved in that kind of thing would be comradeship. “

“Even though you end up being a group of people that through their own extreme views are cut off from society, you do have a sense of comradeship in that you’re a member of a group that’s being attacked by other people.”
Coming out

“On one or two occasions in the recent past I’ve actually been the recipient of the very hatred of the people I want to belong to … if you’re gay it is acceptable in society but with these group of people it’s not acceptable, and I found on one or two occasions when I was suspected of being gay I was subjected to abuse.”

Mr Wilshaw admits that being a Nazi who is gay – but with a Jewish background – is a contradiction.

“It’s a terribly selfish thing to say but it’s true, I saw people being abused, shouted at, spat at in the street – it’s not until it’s directed at you that you suddenly realise that what you’re doing is wrong.”

“You have other members leading National Front who are overtly gay. And nobody could see the contradiction of it that you have an overtly gay person leading a homophobic organisation, makes no sense.”

“Then you have someone like Nicky Crane, one of the hardest people who would be gay.”

“Even when people found out, they’d rationalise it, ‘He’s not really gay’ or ‘gay and ok’.”
Violent attack

He said he had hurt people, “but not unprovoked, in defence. In a by-election in Leeds I smashed a chair over someone’s head.”

But he denied ever having approached minorities and assaulted them.

“I’d never do that, but I have seen incidents where people were singled out because they were black by a group of people. It turned my stomach, I rejected that, I pushed it to the back of my mind.”

Mr Wilshaw was arrested for vandalising a mosque in Aylesbury in the early 1990s – and in March this year he was arrested for online race hate offences.
Extremist as recently as the start of this year

He joined the BNP after being part of the National Front and flirted with dangerous fringe groups like the Racial Volunteer Force.

Mr Wilshaw says he remembers meeting David Copeland – the Brixton and Soho nail bomber. More recently he took to social media – and until the start of year was still speaking at rallies.

Former National Front activist Matthew Collins, who now works for the anti-racist group Hope not Hate said: “One of things we noticed is there was someone who was struggling, he was becoming more and more extreme.”

“We almost expected the phone call and a cry for help, and that’s what he’s done.”
‘I want to hurt extremists’

“I feel appallingly guilty as well, I really do feel guilty, not only that, this is also a barrier to me having a relationship with my own family, and I want to get rid of it, it’s too much of a weight.”


“I want to do some damage as well, not to ordinary people but the people who are propagating this kind of rubbish – want to hurt them, show what it’s like for those who are living a lie and be on the receiving end of this type of propaganda, I want to hurt them.”



Fearing some level of revenge, Mr Wilshaw says “one or two would want to sort me.. they’d see it as betrayal.”

“I am going to find it difficult, granted, to fill a void that has occupied my life since childhood.”



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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 17 Oct 2017 23:10 #3

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One would think there wasn't any Nazi's around this joint with an opinion :coffee:
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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 17 Oct 2017 23:18 #4

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Moi wrote:
One would think there wasn't any Nazi's around this joint with an opinion :coffee:

G'day Moi.

No, no "Nazi's" around here .... plenty of 'National Socialist's' though. :D

The silence is telling from them on many issues / questions.
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 17 Oct 2017 23:29 #5

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I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Moi wrote:
One would think there wasn't any Nazi's around this joint with an opinion :coffee:

G'day Moi.

No, no "Nazi's" around here .... plenty of 'National Socialist's' though. :D

The silence is telling from them on many issues / questions.


Different title, same bullshit :D
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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 17 Oct 2017 23:30 #6

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I'm a bit old fashioned, Nazi works for me :P
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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 18 Oct 2017 00:19 #7

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Moi wrote:
I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Moi wrote:
One would think there wasn't any Nazi's around this joint with an opinion :coffee:

G'day Moi.

No, no "Nazi's" around here .... plenty of 'National Socialist's' though. :D

The silence is telling from them on many issues / questions.


Different title, same bullshit :D

G'day Moi.

Obviously. :thumbup: :D

A large populace held in check by a small but powerful force is quite a common situation in our universe. And we know the major conditions wherein this large populace may turn upon its keepers --
One: When they find a leader. This is the most volatile threat to the powerful; they must retain control of leaders.
Two: When the populace recognizes its chains. Keep the populace blind and unquestioning.
Three: When the populace perceives a hope of escape from bondage. They must never even believe that escape is possible!

- Bene Gesserit Codice

Children of Dune
Frank Herbert

The fact that they are simply another group in a long list of followers is glossed over in their attempts to CONvince all others to join them in their crusade. :thumbup:
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 18 Oct 2017 01:16 #8

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I AM ALL I AM wrote:

The fact that they are simply another group in a long list of followers is glossed over in their attempts to CONvince all others to join them in their crusade. :thumbup:


Tragic :D


Saying that, sadly for those in this group that do actually possess some intellect which I don't for a minute think there isn't, they seem on a whole to attract an absurdly large amount of fuckwits, morons, dipshits, knuckle-draggers, etc for this cause....that it makes one wonder what those with working braincells think of this?
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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 18 Oct 2017 04:49 #9

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Moi wrote:
I AM ALL I AM wrote:

The fact that they are simply another group in a long list of followers is glossed over in their attempts to CONvince all others to join them in their crusade. :thumbup:


Tragic :D


Saying that, sadly for those in this group that do actually possess some intellect which I don't for a minute think there isn't, they seem on a whole to attract an absurdly large amount of fuckwits, morons, dipshits, knuckle-draggers, etc for this cause....that it makes one wonder what those with working braincells think of this?

G'day Moi.

I think you can sum up all of those descriptions you offer into two words ..... religious follower. :thumbup: :joint:

After all, 'National Socialism' is an ism. :D

Maybe it is as simple as power attracting the corruptible ..... or in this case, an insane idea attracting the insane. It wouldn't be difficult finding so many insane individuals in western society. Simply put an insane idea out there and watch them circle wagons in the defense of it because they 'have faith' in the cause. :hahano:
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Kevin Wilshaw - Ex Gay Nazi 18 Oct 2017 08:35 #10

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yehova talking with itself.




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