The Atom Bomb Hoax Thread

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I have put this topic up for discussion at many venues in the past 18 years and still to this day not a single compelling argument proving the viability of this so-called physics exploit.

I have examined this atom bomb claim top to bottom. So, once more the question is on the table but this time I will simply ask that those believing the claim put up their most compelling argument to prove they exist and take it from there.

For my part I have several such compelling arguments proving the hoax and my favorite is the missing historical seismograms at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Estimates at the time equated the blast at Hiroshima at 6.3 on the Richter Scale. Meaning several other nations should have also picked up the propagating underground shock waves. When I say the seismograms are missing I am saying anywhere in the world that could sense these blasts have no records. Those days have been totally wiped out of any seismological records in the world. And that's just one of my favorite nails in that coffin.
 

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Most people won't believe that atomic bombs (and nuclear energy) have never been anything but a science fiction story, first cooked up by the same H.G. Wells that also invented the moon landing (he wasn't the first on "the first men in the moon" though), the UN and WW I and WW II.
But that would sure explain that they're the only weapon of mass destruction that has never been used on a massive scale.

In 1914, H.G. Wells wrote about the coming Great "First World" War to install a one world government, but also about “atomic bombs” and energy...
H.G. Wells - The World Set Free (1914): http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1059/1059-h/1059-h.htm

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Are we supposed to believe that the damage caused by nuclear bombs is similar to convential bombs?!?

See 2 photos of Hiroshima a few weeks after the alleged atomic bomb exploded.
Bizarrely no bridges were damaged and the concrete/brick office buildings are intact.
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Compare this to the pictures of Tokyo after they were carpet bombed with napalm on 10 March 1945 (note the solid concrete buildings still standing).
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Here’s a lot more interesting information collected by the in France surviving Anders Björkman about the atomic bomb hoax.
 

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Lets look at the ordinance that was dropped all over Japan by General LeMays swarms of B-29 superfortress bombers.

The M-69 Aimable Cluster is a container housing many petrol bomblets roughly 12 inches long and containing a fuse mechanism. The inventer of the fuse mechanism was none other than Vanevar Bush the so-called father of HTML.

Bush once was quoted as saying it was not the atom bomb that haunted his dreams but the M-69 terrified him. Illusions of atom bombs have no place in a man's dreams anyways.

So, the aimable clusters are packed and stacked in the bomb bays of the B-29 and dropped from high altitude.

Freefall ends near 2000 feet off the ground where the cluster opens up and frees it's cargo of M69 bomblets. They gently fall to the ground or on any flamable material and it will ignite it.

Picture if you will 300 B-29 over Tokyo raining this ordinance on paper, cardboard, and wood cities. Temperatures reach 5000 degrees very quickly in a fierce firestorm.

The firestorm vaporizes the M69 petrol into the air then it pours back down as black rain. Poisonous to anyone that gets the rain on them and petrol is a carcinogen. The cancers caused by this black rain were tagged as atomic radiation.

Interesting to note that the atomic hoaxsters designed their imaginary atom bomb as exploding over Hiroshima and Nagasaki at 2000 feet. Same altitude the aimable cluster releases it's payload.

The ordinance signature as seen from the aerial post-bombing spells M69 all over. No shockwave (missing historical seismograms) and concrete structures intact and the fine charred extremities of the trees were not blown away. No unique blast and no shockwave. Not sure if the seismograms would register hundreds of thousands of these M69 sticks hitting the streets.

Reports in the newspapers the next day after the bombing reported several aircraft and a firebombing. No talk of atomic anything until McArthur locked down Japan in the most sophisticated censorship of information in and out of Japan ever seen. Then it became atomic everything. M69 burns and cancers and malformations blamed on the atom bomb.
 
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Lets examine how a mushroom cloud is seeded. In other words a look at the conditions required to produce one.

First the explosion must be nearly at ground level. The blast area will grow like an inverted bowl and start rising with the hot air. It's edges curling in from the cooler air rushing in under. The stem conserves it's shape longest because that was where the greatest energy was expended.

Understanding this principal and trying to reconciliate it with the mushroom clouds presented as atomic explosions we notice a serious flaw. A radial high altutude blast would have radiated it's energy in all directions creating atmospheric disturbances that would make a mushroom cloud rip to pieces if it even could start to form.

When have we ever seen fireworks that end in mushroom clouds?

The fact that they published pictures of a mushroom cloud at both Hiroshima and Nagasaki proves in itself they were lying. Once again a consequence of keeping the big lie simple.
 

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Another of my favorites is the famous camphor tree in Hiroshima. This tree is shown toppled on it's side uprooted and the claim is that the atom bomb blast shockwave ripped it from the soil.

Later it was discovered that this tree had been uprooted long before the bombings. Nocturnal rodents with a love of those succulent camphor tree roots had knawed at it until it fell. Also remarkable is that they said a terrible blast wave had knocked it over while it's fine charred extremities were not even blown off. Proof the tree was on it's back when the city was firebombed.
 

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Another thing we can't seem to find anywhere are the pilot and fuel logs for each B-29 operating in that period. If we had them we could show exactly how many aircraft flew over Hiroshima. Based on the scale of the carpet bombing of Hiroshima I determined there were about 150 B-29. The fuel logs would show that these same planes went back to Tinian, retooled and refuelled and took off to Nagasaki where the second firebombin-impersonating-an-atomic bomb took place. I estimated the cost of both those missions was about 3 million dollars based on our understanding of the logistics involved. Ameeicans were billed 3 billion dollars for non existant atomic bombs.

The planes were paid for and there is nothing very exotic about the M69.

So, those records, public records, are gone...pouf...just like that.
 

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Much like the effect the Antarctic Treaty and Covid had on me, I could see the invisible hand directing things behind the scenes superceding any or all conflicts or issues of sovereignty. The atom bomb and nuclear reactor hoaxes operated by so many nations without one even becoming suspicious is suspicious. It doesn't feel natural. Like with covid every nation could have seriously investigated the claim and called them out but the simple truth is that all those tax farms are appendages of this unseen ruling body.

The Cold War looks odd to an atom bomb denier as does Mordechai Vannunu going to jail over a nuclear controversy. Sadaam not taking the mike and telling the world he does not have atom bombs because they do not exist. Kruscheve was supposed to look at Roosevelt at Potsdam and say listen chum we did not detect those blasts you guys said you set of in Japan. Or any other nation coming forth to denounce the scam seismologically.

The atom bomb denier sees a lot about the hoax of national sovereignty and understand that these truths could not be possible if the world was as they taught. I was happy that atom bombs dont exist but it was shocking to grasp the magnitude of the lies and the fortunes stolen.
 

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How about those famous spies that leaked atom bomb design plans to the Soviets and were executed as traitors. I think it was the Rosenbergs



Many other spy stories were staged to achor this hoax into the public mind.

Even the idea of spies sounds ludicrous to those that understand that there are no national sovereignties to spy on each other. More like branch offices keeping tabs on each other. But secrets between them...no way.

Israel bombed an Iraqi nuclear reactor because they feared Sadaam would use it to produce fissionable material to build bombs. All parties concerned knew they were faking.

All the intelligence reports that claim so and so is building a bomb are all full of it.
 

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There was a lot of talk of suitcase nukes used at 911. The idea grew legs but never ran. Even the hardcore arabsdidit crowd don't believe the nukes at 911.
 

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How crazy is this, you plan on flying a bomber carrying the most horrifying weapon ever concieved by man over a city and burn most of its citizens alive and cause misery on a scale barely imaginable and this inspires you to give the plane your mother's name, the Enola Gay. Crazy as batshit. Col Tibbets was a Hollywood insider. Even had an IMDB page back in the early web.
 

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This is what I know about powerful EMP.
The energy induces violent inductive currents in transformers and solenoids whether the transformer or solenoid is on a shelf or installed doing work.

Meaning that a blast like the explosion at Hiroshima would permanently damage all vehicle solenoids and tram motors. Besides that replacement solenoids and electric motors sitting inside the blast zone would be fried too.

In Hiroshima the taxis at the trainstation never lost a car or solenoid and the trams which should have had fried motors were soon up and running after the bombing. At the time Mazda was building motorcycles and although they were near ground zero they lost no equipment or suffered no delays. Business as usual.

Experts said nothing would grow in Hiroshima for 70 years yet oleanders were seen everywhere barely a week later.
 

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People reported they saw birds explode in mid-flight when Little Boy exploded. More horse manure. Anyone looking up when such a thing explodes would be instantly blinded by the flash and xrays speeding out ahead of the heat wave. Hard to see anything when you are blinded. So much bs. Stupid lies like jews having to cook potatoes in dirty laundry water in the camps. They forgot that potatoes are just as nutritional raw. Or the piles of dead bodies they showed saying they were dead jews but of those corpses that were nude they were uncircumsized. They make dumb mistakes like that everywhere.
 

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Taking Apart The Bomb

" Disassembling a nuclear weapon is easy. The hard part : getting rid of it's radioactive innards "

Popular Science Magazine
April 1993
Vol. No. 242 number 4
Page 64

" Pantex is a high security Department of Energy facility named for it's location in the Texas Panhandle. It is protected by gun-toting guards wearing spit-shined combat boots.

"" Some of the guys say that if we just took down a couple of fences it would look like a prison, "" says administrative program manager Jerry Hemphill, one of the nearly 3000 employees.

In January, Pantex officials allowed Popular Science inside the complex's razor-sharp fences for an unprecedented tour. Building 104, a new $30 million structure officially known as the Weapons Special Purpose Bay Replacement Complex, was still undergoing safety tests and had not yet been classified.

Since our visit it has gone " behind the fence," according to Tom W. Walton, public affairs office at Pantex. It is here that the last chapter in the epilogue of the Cold War being written.

Just a few years ago, the United States and the Soviet Union had a total of about 50,000 nuclear weapons in their stockpiles. Some of these weapons have already been dismantled. The Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) calls for cutting the nuclear warhead count from around 9,000 per side to 6,000 per side.

START II -- designed to eliminate multiple-warhead, land-based missiles -- would further reduce the strategic-weapons arsenals to 3,500 per side. The United States has already withdrawn all short-range and naval nuclear weapons formerly stored abroad, and the Russians say they no longer target the United States with intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Can we sigh with relief, and at long last lay our fears of nuclear holocaust to rest? Treaties not only call for the dismantling of warheads, but also for the destruction of missiles and other delivery systems. And the production plants for fissionable materials -- the plutonium and uranium that power nuclear weapons -- stand idle.

But despite all these changes, no government has any plans to destroy or make totally inaccessible it's inventory of fissionable materials. Nuclear firepower is not going out of existance -- merely into storage.

The atomic bomb was developed by the United States in the fear that Nazis Germany's scientists would be first to implement a concept known to all physicists since the 1930s -- nuclear fission. That concept inflated physics, once a concern only of theoreticians and tabletop experimenters, into a huge industry and a major instrument of national power.

Despite Germany's defeat in the spring of 1945,the bomb program hastened to it's conclusion : Two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan in August of that same year. The world was stunned by this new force. The physicists who had created it foresaw the future -- that the Soviets would have the bomb soon ( they did by 1949) and that an arms race would follow.

Now that race has finally ended, and the competitors -- who would together spend more than a trillion dollars to create their nuclear weapons complexes -- are making plans for the dismantling of their arsenals.

This is a positive step, but not one that will soon bring an end to the mess caused by nuclear weapons. In their race to produce weapons, the cold warring nations contaminated land, air, and waterwith radioactive materials and toxic chemicals. As much as 15 percent of the former Soviet Union's territory is now estimated to be unfit for human habitation.

In the United States, the cleanup is expected to take decades and will cost at least $200 billion. Weapons dismantling in the next few years will add to this legacy an estimated 25 tons of highly enriched uranium and ten tons of plutonium.

Natural uranium ore is mostly made up of uranium-238; less than 1 percent is the chain-reacting isotope uranium - 235, used in nuclear weapons. To obtain U-235, bomb makers extract it from U-238,a slow and tremendously expensive process that requires complex technology. Reversing the process, however, is easy : just mix U-235 back into natural uranium to produce a slightly enriched fuel that can be consumed in submarine or civilian power reactors. Without the extraction technology, the mixture is useless for bomb production.

Plutonium, however, is a problem. Nonexistant in nature, plutonium is created in nuclear reactors by irradiating natural uranium with neutrons. Unlike U-235, plutonium can be chemically extracted from any mixture with ease.

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Pantex continued...

" Arms control experts believe plutonium is relatively safe in fixed storage at military bases or dismantlement centers. The cost of such storage is estimated at $1 to $2 per gram, or between $300 million and $600 million per year worldwide -- not too much to pay for protection against the unauthorized use of this dangerous, cancer-causing material.

Greater risk occurs in transit. A special armoured "white train" was once used to convey U.S. nuclear weapons to Pantex, the nation's only dismantlement center. Now a fleet of 70 special armored trucks, escorted by heavily armed guards, transports weapons to the 16,000-acre plant, located east of Amarillo, Texas.

The bombs, warheads, and artillery shels that the trucks transport to Pantex are delivered to an area called zone 4 and temporarily stored in " igloos, " bunkers made of reinforced concrete covered with at least three feet of soil. From the igloos, weapons are moved to buildings that are designed for inspection, assembly, and disassembly tasks.

Building 104, one such facility, contains eight "bays" -- large, heavily shielded rooms. The walls consist of 15 feet of earth sandwiched between a pair of two-foot thick layers of concrete, and the entrances are protected by 1,100-pound doors. The floors are made from paint chips that are mixed with polyurethane to form a spongy material deemed unlikely to set off explosions.

While there is little danger of a nuclear detonation, its possible that the chemical explosive of a weapon could blow up during the disassembly process. If that were to happen, the room's shielding would help contain the blast.

In one of the bays, tecnicians operate a powerful x-ray machine that can penetrate 15 inches of steel. " You want to know what the weapon's condition is before you dismantle it, " explains Randall L. Hodges, production supervisor for non-destructive evaluation.

Technicians place a weapon on a large turntable. Film is attached to a screen behind the turntable; pointed at the weapon is a linear accellerator suspended from a gantry -- a jumbo version of the X-ray machine your dentist points at your cheek. A computer automatically controls the movement of the turntable and linear accellerator, and the technicians can watch the X-ray image as it's being made. Then they can add false-color enhancements to detect flaws.

After the X-ray inspection, the weapon goes to an assembly/disassembly bay. " You use essentially the same facilities for either production or dismantlement, " says Gerald W. Johnson, the senior Department of Energy official at the plant.

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Pantex plant continued..

" Inside the heavily reinforced bay, workers break down weapons into subassemblies. The versatile B-61 bomb that's carried by Air Force and Navy planes, for example, is broken into four sections : the nose cone, a center section containing radioactive materials, an arming section, and a tail section that contains a parachute.

To learn how to take the weapon apart, workers train on a simulator that looks just like the real thing, but has mock radioactive components.

It takes workers as long as three weeks to disassemble some weapons, but a B-61 can be taken apart in about a day. After the bomb is broken down into it's four subassemblies, the nosecone is sent to a Department of Energy plant in Kansas City. The segment containing the radioactive material and chemical explosives, known as the " physics package, " usually goes to another building for special handling.

The remaining parts are returned to other facilities for reuse, or " disfigured " to protect secret design information. Gold and other precious metals are recovered from the mangled parts, which are sent away for recycling or disposal. The total cost for disassembling a single weapon is between $10,000 and $25,000.

Some weapons like the B-61 bomb, are two-stage thermo-nuclear arms. These types contain a fusion assembly known simply as the " secondary. " Pantex send secondaries to the Y-12 plant in Oak Ridge, Tenn., for storage or disassembly. Each secondary is shipped in a double-walled can called an MH-2800 Type B."

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Pantex plant continued...

" There are 180 of these cans, and they must pass hurculean tests : a 30-foot drop to a slab, a 40-inch drop to a spike, a 1475 degree F. Fire for 30 minutes, immersion in water for eight hours, and a load of 6,500 pounds for 24 hours.

Inside the secondary is a " wrapper " of heavy uranium-238. The wrapper covers a sealed cylinder of lithium deuteride and a central plutonium rod. The lithium deuteride is pyrophoric -- it ignites spontaneously if exposed to air -- so it requires special care. The plutonium rod is removed, cased and stored. Any other valuable materials are recovered, and the rest is ground to bits.

The B-61's " primary " -- it's fissionable core -- is dismantled at Pantex in one of the plant's 12 " gravel gerties, " semiburied structures in which a thick gravel-and-sand cap covers a " cell " with reinforced walls. In the event of an accidental chemical explosion that might disperse plutonium, " the gravel would rise a few feet and settle down, containg the radiation, " explains Jerry Hemphill.

Working on the gravel-covered cells, gloved technicians wearing lead aprons and shielded face masks remove the primary's outer casing. Inside they may find an " electric blanket " -- a heater designed to maintain the chemical explosives at an optimal temperature. Beneath the blanket is the spherical shell of explosives, protected by a close-fitting jacket.

Thirty-two or more exploding wire detonators are bonded to the outside of the spherical primary ; their job is to symmetrically ignite the chemical explosives. Each detonator is connected --- through high speed, solid-state switches -- to it's own capacitor. Like a car engine, an atomic bomb has a capaciter discharge ignition.

Located near the detonators are thermal batteries, devices that have a long shelf life and can deliver a lot of current on demand. During the arming sequence, the batteries charge the capacitors, which discharge across the detonators when the firing signal is given. While the bomb is being disassembled, the detonators and their capacitors are shorted, so that external electromagnetic fields cannot somehow induce a discharge.

The chemical explosives on the exterior of the spherical primary are high density (almost twice that of water), high-energy stuff, far more energetic and fast-burning than dynamite, yet very resistant to unintended discharge from shock or heat. Workers use a water-jet saw to cut through the dark, waxy material, revealing the bomb's core. The hemispherical shells of high explosives that are removed are later burned on trays in an open field.

With the explosives removed, technicians can see a protective plating of gold or another enert material. Beneath it is steel-grey beryllium, or uranium-238 -- the spherical tamper. As the chemical explosive wave rushes inward, the tamper's mass acts as a hammer that strikes the plutonium pit -- the bomb's fuel -- from all directions simultaneously. The pit is suspended in the center of the hollow tamper's inner cavity.

This insignificant-looking, grapefruit-size lump contains energy that can level cities. Heavier than a lead ball of the sae size, the sphere is perpetually warmfrom it's steady release of energy. Plutonium is highly reactive, so the pit is hermetically sealed in a jacket of stainless steel or a similar metal. " If you can picture a grapefruit skin with the fruit removed, " says Tom Walton, " the steel is like the yellow part of the skin, and the plutonium is the white part just under the yellow. The inside is hollow. "

The steel jacket prevents the pit from giving off particles that could be inhaled or ingested, but it does not block the carcinogenic gamma radiation emitted by the plutonium. The amount of radiation that workers receive depends on how close to the plutonium they are, how long they are exposed, and how well they are shielded. Pantex permits workers to receive up to one rem of radiation a year, one fifth the government's limit for radiation workers.

The average person who does not work around radiation receives a little more than a third of a rem per year from natural radiation, medical X-rays, and other sources.

Overcrowded igloos

The plutonium pits removed from weapons are placed in holders that fit inside steel containers. The containers are stored in 18 of the 60 igloos on the Pantex property ( the others are reserved for weapons). " We have always [stored] pits here, but only temporarily, " says Hemphill. Until recently, the pits were sent to Rocky Flats plant outside Denver to be made into new bomb cores, but that plant is now inactive. Pantex currently has the capacity to dismantle approximately 2000 warheads per year, but at any rate, the plant will run out of storage space for the plutonium pits around the end of this summer.

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Pantex plant continued...

" There are two proposed solutions : Convert more igloos to pit storage or begin stacking the pit containers on top of each otherinside the igloos. Current regulations prohibit both of these strategies, but if Texas approves an environmental impact assessment prepared by the DOE, the rules could be changed to permit " interim " storage.

What will be the ultimate fate of the plutonium piling up at Pantex? Theodore Taylor, a former bomb designer now concerned about weapons proliferation, suggests using the space shuttle or heavy booster rockets to shoot the world's supply of plutonium into the sun. The problem with this idea is that a Challenger-type accident could have catastrophic consequences.

A Russian entrepreneurial corporation, Chetek, proposed using underground nuclear explosions to mix and vitrify plutonium into millions of tons of miles-deep rock -- making a highly diluted and inaccessible ore. But again, if anything went wrong, the consequences could be severe.

Another proposal is to create a new, mixed oxide plutonium-uranium fuel cycle for nuclear power generation. There is some support in Congress for this idea, and some Russian authorities back it as well, but the technology would take a decade or more to implement.

Guarded storage may be the best solution. Now kept in " interim " storage, plutonium could eventually be deposited in sealed, deep geologic formations, as is now proposed to store reactor waste. The land above such a site would have to be guarded for millenia; only half of the plutonium will have decayed after 24,000 years.

But the Pentagon and the Department of Energy are in no hurry to find a final resting place for their stockpile of plutonium. Because public protest will likely limit the government's ability to reactivate the plants that manufactured fissionable materials, the pits created at great expense are being hoarded carefully, and there are no plans to make them permanently inaccessible for weapons use.

The government is simply storing the materials, which could later be " recycled." The making of fresh bombs from old is a long-established practice.

Like their American counterpart, the former Soviet republics have not yet developed firm plans for permanent disposal. Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus initially agreed to return their arms to Russia to be dismantled, but they are now balking at giving up these powerful bargaining chips. Ukraine, in particular, wants a guarantee of military protection before it surrenders it's weapons to Russia.

The former republic also wants Russia to promise that it will permanently dispose of the weapons, rather than simply store them.

The U.S. Congress approved a $400 million loan to Russia to aid the transport and disposal process. The United States also offered Russia 25 specially fitted railcars that could be used to transport weapons to dismantlement areas.

Farewell to arms

How can U.S. officials be sure that the Russians are really taking apart their bomb? What goes on inside a dismantlement facility is the business of the nation that owns it, but inspectors at the gates will be able to monitor everything that goes in and out. It is hoped that, in this way, each nation can confidently scale down it's warhead count step by step, knowing that the other side is doing the same.

Scientists say that measurements of the types and intensities of emitted radiation can be used to identify weapons componants, and that each unit can then be sealed with a coded fibre-optic cable that is inspectable and tamper-resistant . No sensitive design information will thus be revealed, and the only intrusion into national sovereignty that will be required is periodic seal inspection.

But these are really administrative matters. The end of the Cold War raises larger issues. Now that we have created nuclear weapons, how can we ever get rid of them? What do we do with the radioactive materials that cannot be destroyed or recycled? The best plans call for nothing more than the sequestering of these materials. Like garbage placed at the curb to be thrown " away, " plutonium will merely be moved to another place and stored.

Although that has ominous implications, it's a step in the right direction -- towards the day when we will no longer be just a phone call away from nuclear disaster.

END OF ARTICLE
Popular Science Magazine (April 1993) vol 242 number 4

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I put up this article as a reference to the reader as I proceed to elaborate several points brought up in this PSM piece. Imagine what all this looks like to an atom bomb denier. Just the sheer mountains of public treasure worldwide going down the toilet servicing this scientific fraud. Einstein was to physics what Pasteur was to medicine.
 

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These are the only images of the M69 firebombs. The weapon that burned Hiroshima and Nagasaki and hundreds more square miles of Tokyo in WW2.



 

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A little graphic drawn to scale giving an idea how impossible the official atom bomb narrative is.

 

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My belief with regards to the atom bomb is that the plans, the scientists involved, and all witnesses would have been destroyed if the thing had been viable.

A threat like that to a ruling elite would never be allowed to exist. If the atom bomb had been viable it would be in the hands of non governmental interests long ago.

The mess that would have ensued would have been epic.

World governments beat down by numerous nuclear strikes by freedom fighters and more.

The only reason this atom bomb claim was made is precisely because they know it does not work and never will.

Bet they laugh when some angry person decides to call in a false nuke threat.
 
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