David Icke Forum is a limited hang out

[Jesus-lover]

Even here on this board you all keep going in the same circle and never look passed the boogiemen, scapegoats, and judas goats.

Genesis 36 - 50 is the blueprint of your enslavement. And it just keeps repeating for thousands of years because of your ignorance.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

What part did you not understand?

What don't you understand, more like. Nothing wrong with being gay, and you can use your homophobia as a fig leaf, but you're pretty sad and desparate when you start to reply to your own posts under a different user name. I suppose you hoped it would make it look like someone was having a conversation with you. Sad.

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[Jesus-lover]

What don't you understand, more like. Nothing wrong with being gay, and you can use your homophobia as a fig leaf, but you're pretty sad and desparate when you start to reply to your own posts under a different user name. I suppose you hoped it would make it look like someone was having a conversation with you. Sad.

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I never mentioned sodomites.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

I never mentioned sodomites.

You don't have to mention that word to be homophobic, and why are you using two different accounts on this forum?

 

[Jesus-lover]

You don't have to mention that word to be homophobic, and why are you using two different accounts on this forum?

Sodomy has overstimulated your kundalini and opened your third eye uncontrollably through which demons have entered.
Bless your heart and I will pray for your soul

 

[Truthspoon]

Schizophrenia is very closely connected to the Kundalini condition. I've never been an advocate for Kundalini.... always said it was basically a lure to become mentally ill just like the Illuminati themselves....you won't have to eat or sleep....you may even have magical powers or at least you might think you have...... and yeah, the galactic hierarchy of the Great White Brotherhood, your dead gran and even an invisible giant spider called Xoofart will be at your side 24 hours a day telling you all sorts of great secrets and telling you you should stab your mother to death because she's actually an alien robot and the scout for an invasion force of alien robots...and this act will make you the saviour of the planet..

It's not even funny though. This really does happen to people....it's really sad. Was a case of a Holllywood star who murdered him mum with a ceremonial Masonic sword because he thought she was doing black magic when she was just cooking a chicken.

https://www.truthspoon.com/2015/03/reality-flux.html

So sad. But it's not a coincidence.... there is a force behind all this bullshit and the voices which drive people to insanity are indeed 'demons' with a real non-physical existence.

It's my belief that childhood sexual abuse, practised by Freemasonry and the other Illuminati cults, is part of the priming of that child to develop schizophrenia in later life, and schizophrenia for the Illuminati and the magical cults, represents the apotheosis of their mysteries.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

Sodomy has overstimulated your kundalini and opened your third eye uncontrollably through which demons have entered.
Bless your heart and I will pray for your soul

We've already had this conversation on the David Icke forum. Sodom was not destroyed because of "sodomy". It was destroyed because the people who lived in Sodom were inhospitable and were cruel towards strangers. Like you, the Sodomites demonstrated xenophobia. You've made xenophobia your thing with your hatred of gays, Jews, foreigners, brown people and black people. Does your mother know how you've changed since I was hospitable and accommadated you in my home? You gave her contact details when you moved out.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

Schizophrenia is very closely connected to the Kundalini condition. I've never been an advocate for Kundalini.... always said it was basically a lure to become mentally ill just like the Illuminati themselves....you won't have to eat or sleep....you may even have magical powers or at least you might think you have...... and yeah, the galactic hierarchy of the Great White Brotherhood, your dead gran and even an invisible giant spider called Xoofart will be at your side 24 hours a day telling you all sorts of great secrets and telling you you should stab your mother to death because she's actually an alien robot and the scout for an invasion force of alien robots...and this act will make you the saviour of the planet..

It's not even funny though. This really does happen to people....it's really sad. Was a case of a Holllywood star who murdered him mum with a ceremonial Masonic sword because he thought she was doing black magic when she was just cooking a chicken.

https://www.truthspoon.com/2015/03/reality-flux.html

So sad. But it's not a coincidence.... there is a force behind all this bullshit and the voices which drive people to insanity are indeed 'demons' with a real non-physical existence.

It's my belief that childhood sexual abuse, practised by Freemasonry and the other Illuminati cults, is part of the priming of that child to develop schizophrenia in later life, and schizophrenia for the Illuminati and the magical cults, represents the apotheosis of their mysteries.

Interesting you should mention Schizophrenia. Why do you have two user names and why are you replying to your own posts with the other account?

 

[ArmchairObserver]

You're crazy Rob. I have no interest in speaking to you.... either in sock form....

I don't know who Jesus-Lover is but it's not me.

Now stop being a lunatic and embarrassing yourself in public.

It's so obvious you are Jesus-Lover and T'spoon. both personas are identical and when you logged in last night, you logged in almost at the same time with both accounts. Both of your accounts were online for some time, and both accounts logged out at the same time. Too much for coincidence. You demonstrated how nasty you could be on the David Icke forum. I could've contacted your mother then, but now my patience is wearing thin as I'm rather concerned about the direction your heading in and your mental health.

 

[Truthspoon]

You're a mess. Jesus Lover is not me. And I really don't want to talk to you anymore.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

You're a mess. Jesus Lover is not me. And I really don't want to talk to you anymore.

You used a sock account on the David Icke forum, T'spoon, or should I call you Edgewood? It's also worth noting that you weren't banned for just being anti-Semitic. You were also banned for being homophobic and nasty and refusing to apologise. Have you spoken to Meg Lee Chin lately? She appeared on a my Twitter account a few days ago. Nick thinks you're going round the bend!

 

[Truthspoon]

God what a horrible vicious person you are.

I know the demon driving you is itching for a fight. You're not in your right mind.

I'm not interested in fighting and bitching.

As for Nick... I never had a bad word to say about him. No doubt you talk about me all the time.

That's sad man. Move on, please, forget about me. What's wrong with you?

By the way I never was homophobic (bullshit phrase) in the past. But meeting you and recently seeing what you have become has convinced me that mental illness and homosexuality go hand in hand, and such people are generally extremely mentally unstable. usually due to childhood sexual abuse by a man which they later 'rationalise' as a homosexual attraction to men.

Will you now piss off and leave me alone?

Honestly...someone like you is the last person on Earth who has the right to lecture anyone or claim any kind of moral highground about anything.

So please.....stop being a massive arsehole. You're digging a bigger hole with your ego which you will have to account for one day, and I don't think you're going to be up to it.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

God what a horrible vicious person you are.

I know the demon driving you is itching for a fight. You're not in your right mind.

I'm not interested in fighting and bitching.

As for Nick... I never had a bad word to say about him.

Perhaps he's as unpleasant as you are.

By the way I never was homophobic. But meeting you and seeing what you have become has convinced me that the mental illness and homosexuality go hand in hand.

Will you now piss off and leave me alone?

Horrible for not being a anti-Semitic, nasty towards gays, blacks and brown people and foreigners, then I'm very relieved, which is much more than can be said about you, and no, Nick is not an unpleasant person. In fact, he is a much loved person.

If you are not homophobic, why did you say all those nasty things against gays on the David Icke forum? If you doubt what I'm saying, I can post an array of things you've written, with links, in case your memory is poor.

 

[Truthspoon]

You're not a Christian. A Christian doesn't thrive on and get thrilled by conflict.

But you do. You are not a Christian. You really need to wake up to that fact and maybe look into how you can start to become one.

I asked you to leave me alone..... but you just couldn't do that so you created the fantasy in your mind that I was Jesus Lover and as such, I was still talking to you.

I have no interest in communicating with you. You are literally demonically possessed. I try to avoid contact with demons because it is always the same......the same cycle of blame, shame, self-pity, abuse, and all topped off with self-righteousness.

I have no interest in dealing with that thanks.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

You're not a Christian. A Christian doesn't thrive on and get thrilled by conflict.

But you do. You are not a Christian. You really need to wake up to that fact and maybe look into how you can start to become one.

If you're not homophobic, why did you call gay people "faggots" on the David Icke forum?

 

[ArmchairObserver]

You are literally demonically possessed.

You're just projecting.

you created the fantasy in your mind that I was Jesus Lover

As stated further up this thread, it's so obvious you're posting as Jesus-Lover and T'spoon. Both personas have the same character, and when you logged in last night, you logged in almost at the same time, with both accounts. Both your accounts were online for some time, and both accounts logged out at the same time, too much a coincidence.

You're not averse to having sock accounts. On the David Icke you posted, incognito, under the username of "Edgewood" until you were found out and banned. It's hardly surprising you also deploy sock accounts on other forums.

You threatened me on the David Icke forum, posting that you could destroy me, but you have absolutely nothing against me. I've done nothing wrong, apart from object to, and counter, the torrent of bile you spewed on that forum, and that's why you're angry. You can't deal with what you see in the mirror, so you project what's within you, on others.

 

[Truthspoon]

All you are doing is demonstrating the link between mental instability and homosexuality.

It is not really an essential part of my thesis...but I am happy to allow this to be submitted to the public record.

Now I am Jesus Lover...... because of course I really want to talk to you?

I don't want to talk to you, but if you remain here I will use you as a lesson on why people should avoid dealing with or making friendships with homosexuals.

Because they are lunatics who will haunt you forever trying to take out their childhood trauma on you.

They are worse than a spurned ex. There seems to be a mania in you which I have encountered elsewhere but most normal people have the decency to reign it in. I know however that 'decency' and homosexuality are not mutually compatible, therefore, due to the typically expulsive homosexual character, there is no self-control or wish to even attempt it, since society tells you, you are right and you are the 'victim' of intolerance.

I have no particular wish to talk about you or homosexuals, but for some reason, you seem driven to conflict and ultimately, sadly, your own spiritual self destruction.

It doesn't have to be like this.

 

[Truthspoon]

https://www.truthspoon.com/2016/02/the-cain-takeover.html

The Cain Takeover.​

The Cain personality is now so rapidly progressing throughout the whole society that soon there will literally not be enough Abel people left to actually prevent the final destruction of the world to be wrought by Cain’s Children.

Cain lives in a realm of fear and psychologically there are generally only three responses to a mind in fear: paralysis, attack and retreat into delusion. We have seen the effect of the Cain effect paralysis at work on people in the public sector who have been subjected to the special training which, since the 1990’s and the great Marxist leveling which took place under John Major as the 'Classless society' and was broadly accelerated under his successor Tony Blair, in which the normal function of training middle class professionals and the upwardly mobile working class, was handed over to NGO's and training organisations which teach a fundamentally Marxist dialectic which destroyed the idea in British society of difference, excellence and ability, in order to level everyone to a broad and nebulous, but meaningless 'equality'.




We have seen this effect of this programme which was introduced in the United States at about the same time and the fruits of which are a vast series of industrial and environmental disasters, as 'actual ability' and 'fitness' to a particular work role, have been superceded by the belief that anyone can do anything, and as result, many sensitive roles are now being carried out by people scarcely able to perform them.

This particularly happens when Freemasons start to dominate an organisation or sector of activity, since they will favour hiring fellow masons regardless of their ability or fitness to the role and we often find disasters taking place where-ever a Mason is running things. Often these people are struck with inability to act and paralysis, and these are the very words which were used to describe the process which led to the unfolding of the Hillsborough stadium disaster which killed 96 people in 1989 when poor judgments of the police led to a fatal crush and wholly avoidable loss of human life prior to the start of a football match.

The Freemason police Chief superintendent David Duckenfield has recently been described in a BBC article as 'not best man for the job' and while Duckenfield was in charge “The control room [where Duckenfield was in command] seemed to have been hit by some sort of paralysis.”

What's more this has only just come out, since the Freemasons had covered up for Duckenfield for 25 years.

Hillsborough inquests hears David Duckenfield 'gave masonic handshake' and refused to go to planning meeting

Additionally this 'classless' society also means that the techniques of psychological modelling and mind control which had previously been the preserve of the rich upper classes at Public schools and within the elite, became broadly democratised thanks to organisations like Common Purpose and the Freemasons which entered an unprecedented period of recruitment within the professions and private sector, whose ouvertures to join the 'big boys' was hidden within the course and devoilement of the training programme.

Now borderline psychosis is no longer the preserve of the in-bred upper classes but can now be found in most areas of professional activity. In Europe this has been going on much longer and children were often moulded at an early age through various mentoring and youth associations. Some of which would use paedophilia and the apparently ambivalent attitude and prevalence of paedophilia in German society is not unknown.


https://antioligarch.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/eu-making-paedophilia-legal-across-europe/

It should be stated here clearly that a paedophile is not someone who has a specific sexual orientation and there are some rather disturbing moves amongst certain factions within the Labour party and gay-rights movement, and also the Green party in Germany, which were, and maybe still are, covertly seeking to have paedophilia legally reclassified as a sexual orientation.



It is not a sexual orientation but a psychotic compulsion. The purpose of this compulsion is to perpetuate the line of Cain.




We know that psychological changes can be manifested due to certain physical and psychological stresses, and this is fairly self evident and is one of the key secret of trauma based mind control such as that which has been perfected by the secret societies and satanic agencies for hundreds of years.

Could the mark of Cain, on his forehead have been some kind of lesion caused by contact with light, such as what might occur with someone developing porphyria as a result of stress induced bio-chemical changes such as those which can trigger the development of both schizophrenia and the prophyria related haemophilia such as that which was apparently developed in Queen Victoria at some point before the birth of her second daughter Alice. Does this not make sense if we consider the passage from Genesis:

“Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is too great to bear!14"Behold, You have driven me this day from the face of the ground; and from Your face I will be hidden, and I will be a vagrant and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me." 15 So the LORD said to him, "Therefore whoever kills Cain, vengeance will be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD appointed a sign for Cain, so that no one finding him would slay him.…”

This does seem to evoke some form of sudden transformation taking place in Cain, a restlessness, fear or paranoia, and the sense that he has become estranged from God. I have spoken to several schizophrenics including a close friend who shared with me some of the details of how he feels during an attack, and he feels above all, that he is being drawn into hell and estranged completely from God.




It is also the case that many sufferers from schizophrenia find it difficult, without appropriate care and support, to hold down any kind of job, relationship or even manage their daily affairs. Often schizophrenia sufferers can become vagrants and homeless, like Cain, wondering from place to place.

I believe the Freemasons have some understanding of the true nature of Cain’s curse. In the novel East of Eden written by the famous American Freemasonic writer John Steinbeck whose title alludes to the Biblical description for the location of the land of Nod which was where Cain was exiled to after he murdered his brother Abel.

In the novel John Steinbeck follows the lives of a family of farmers living in the Salinas valley California. There is the sexually dissolute and dangerous Cathy Ames who marries protagonist good-guy Adam Trask. Cathy is a sociopath and is described as having a ‘malformed soul’. Additionally Adam’s own brother Charles is also a sociopath, a psychotically violent one if pushed, although he is what would be considered a functioning sociopath and his family and Adam himself have learned to adapt themselves to his violence, and Charles and Cathy seem to have a common understanding with each other, as if they are of the same Cain type, and wholly different from simple, innocent and ostensibly ‘good’ Abel people like his brother and her husband Adam who they both pity and despise for his goodness and naivety.

In an exact parallel to the story of Cain and Abel, Adam gives his father a puppy for his birthday, at which the father is overjoyed. Charles’ gift of a knife however is less well received and triggers another episode of psychotic violence in which he nearly kills his brother Adam. That Adam and Charles are parallels to Cain and Abel is obvious, and what Cain and Charles represent is the sociopathic personality, and Steinbeck’s inference is that it is something which is genetically transferred as the same struggle seems to continue through their children: Caleb and Aron.

Reflecting on this work, Steinbeck said “I believe that there is one story in the world, and only one . . . . Humans are caught—in their lives, in their thoughts, in their hungers and ambitions, and in their avarice and cruelty, and in their kindness and generosity too—in a net of good and evil... and it occurs to me that evil must constantly respawn, while good, while virtue is immortal.”

The effect of paedophilia on a young child is like an extreme initiation into pure terror. It is 'evil' trying to respawn and unnaturally perpetuate itself. And this is the true purpose. The abuser is a puppet of this compulsion and is a paedophile because he is a child of Cain and he is driven to make more.

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Scouting for Naked Boys, with a Foreword by a Salivating Lord Baden Powel.

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We have seen that in basic terms, schizophrenia develops when fear and anxiety chemicals outweigh personal peace and security chemicals, that is there is more adrenochrome than serotonin. And when one is in absolute fear and has no security then there is a sense that there is no inner refuge from terror itself and at that point a profound psycho-spiritual change takes place.

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Ever noticed that the font for the Virgin logo resembles dripping red blood?

The effect of this is that the schizophrenic supposes that he or she is in hell, or Satan owns their soul and that all hope is gone. These people are therefore IN TOTAL FEAR and as we have seen the three classical psychological responses may be: catalepsy, irrational violence, and evasion into delusion.

Obviously sexual abuse is at the extreme end of the scale of behavioural modification and initiation into Cain consciousness but there are many degrees of this. Indeed secret societies such as the Freemasons and occult groups such as Wicca and the OTO all have different fear initiations taking them higher and higher into the organisation as the amount of fear and terror and sense of danger increases. The ultimate aim of these secret societies is the full transformation into the Cain consciousness, which we can also term psychosis or schizophrenia.

This is why the British public schools have traditionally been so rife with child abuse and homosexuality, not merely through the apparent sexual frustration of having no girls around. Children are not adult prisoners after all and are largely not yet dominated by hormonal urges as confined adult men may be.

Instead in the school it seems that the homosexuality is all carried out as a kind of initiation by older boys to younger boys. Indeed, many homosexual celebrities, such as Stephen Fry, have been perfectly frank that they became homosexual after an act of what we may term sexual abuse or borderline rape, by an older boy while at school. As a result of this act there are no doubt many thoughts and feelings which may develop such as fear, shame and a feeling that something personal has been taken from them.




This is why homosexual males and lesbian women can tend to become rather expulsive with their sexuality, and proudly let it all hang out, as we have seen from the vociferous public activism and various ‘pride marches’ of the gay community. There is a sense that there is no longer a private inner domain since such a domain cannot be protected and defended. That there is nowhere to hide. No secrets for them that cannot be casually taken from them and no one to protect them. Therefore sexuality is exposed to the public and has become a cultural and political talking point: lines between modesty and decency virtually disappear in this new need to be expulsive at all costs.

Often we find this same Cain mentality results almost always in atheism and I would wager that were a frank survey to be performed to determine a connection between atheism and childhood trauma or abuse, then one would certainly be found.

They feel that there was no one to protect them during a formative point in their early lives, and because someone was able to abuse them with apparent impunity that God, who should have protected them in some sense from it, cannot therefore exist. This is the Cain personality again, atheism as an expression of Cain personality.

In the sense that Cain was removed from God’s presence in the East of Eden the atheist is also removed from God, or at least, they have psychologically argued against God’s existence, whether through apparent misuse of logic, but their atheism is never based on logic but emotion as, despite what some apparently clever TV humanists might claim, one cannot logically prove the non existence of God.

It is far easier to demonstrate the existence of a creator by using the evidence of the creation itself, but the fact of the myriad uncountable miracles of creation are being explained away in subtle and semantic games which are being bolstered by apparent scientific authority shows how much of those in the establishment science and media are under the thrall of Cain consciousness and specifically perpetuating a Freemasonic agenda.

But what is taking place now, aside from the secret perversion of radical transformations which have long taken place in public schools, scout camps and desanctified churches is the spreading of Cain consciousness throughout society within corporate training, government training programmes and even in the workplace.

This is something I know about because have spent years being hounded, tracked and moulded into this very consciousness which I will now attempt to recount in as much detail as I can recall.

 

[Truthspoon]

Quod erat demonstrandum.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

God what a horrible vicious person you are.

I know the demon driving you is itching for a fight. You're not in your right mind.

I'm not interested in fighting and bitching.

As for Nick... I never had a bad word to say about him. No doubt you talk about me all the time.

That's sad man. Move on, please, forget about me. What's wrong with you?

By the way I never was homophobic (bullshit phrase) in the past. But meeting you and recently seeing what you have become has convinced me that mental illness and homosexuality go hand in hand, and such people are generally extremely mentally unstable. usually due to childhood sexual abuse by a man which they later 'rationalise' as a homosexual attraction to men.

Will you now piss off and leave me alone?

Honestly...someone like you is the last person on Earth who has the right to lecture anyone or claim any kind of moral highground about anything.

So please.....stop being a massive arsehole. You're digging a bigger hole with your ego which you will have to account for one day, and I don't think you're going to be up to it.

Thanks for showing beyond doubt that you're homophobic. That's you're problem. You have nothing on me and you cannot destroy me, but if you step over the line and carry on being malicious, then your mother will be informed regarding the path you've taken and how you've changed.

When I showed Nick some of your posts he actually said that he thought you were having a "mental breakdown". His words, not mine.

You were banned from the DI forum, not only because of your problem with Jews, but because of your insults against me. You refused to apologise and still do, so don't be surprised if your bad karma follows you around.

Honestly...someone like you is the last person on Earth who has the right to lecture anyone or claim any kind of moral highground about anything.

Like I said, you have absolutely nothing on me. Your mother would be shocked how you've turned out.

You had a sock acount on the DI forum, as you have on this forum, "Jeus-Lover."