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G'day.

Below is a post from the thread of the same title posted on the Infinite Love forum, March 29, 2010 ...


... not sure how many of the links are still valid, with a youtube video definitely not (though I left it in the post).

There is a limit to how many characters are allowed in one post, so I will have to split this up into 3 or 4 posts ... EDIT: 5 posts.

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This information was originally posted on docs4you.org by exu156 ...

Taken from posts by exu156 ... http://www.docs4you.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=6774&st=0

Israel can do whatever the hell it likes;
it can starve people ... http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0416-01.htm
terrorize them ... http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11&ar=247
shoot at civilians, bomb them repeatedly, destroy infrastructure ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5130510.stm
kidnap and torture children ... http://www.palestinemonitor.org/new_web/israel_torture_report.htm
steal land and property ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1269880,00.html
pass racist laws ... http://www.counterpunch.org/hass07112006.html
promote anti-Arab racism in their classrooms ... http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0999/9909019.html
engage in ethnic cleansing ... http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/h123002.html
kidnap Palestine's government, treat its Arab citizens with contempt ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4198754.stm
bombing families to smithereens on beaches ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5066496.stm
openly declared that they intend to commit war crimes ... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2269750,00.html


The strategy has long been to target Hezbollah, Syria and Iran via Lebanon ... http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm ... This assault was planned well before the incidents that supposedly precipitated it ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13847803/

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The Early Zionists were the first terrorists in the area! Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine. These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang.

Before the British Mandate, the Jewish settlers had formed a group of mounted armed watchmen called "Hashomar" and with the advent of the British Mandate, it became the Haganah (Defense). With a membership of 60,000 Zionist Jews, the Haganah had a field army of 16,000 trained men and a unit called the Palmach, which was a full-time force, numbering about 6000.

The Irgun Zvai Leumi included between 3000 and 5000 armed terrorists, and grew out of the Haganah and its Palmach branch in 1933. The Irgun was not ready to obey the Jewish Agency which sought to dilute the terror of the Haganah in order not to lose its respectability.

In 1939, one of Irgun's commanding officers, Abraham Stern, left the parent organization and formed the Stern Gang, numbering some 200 to 300 dangerous fanatics.

Israel started terrorism in the Middle East...what we see today is its evil spawn re-birthed.

So let's look at some EARLY examples of Zionist terrorism:

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants.

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel's borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes. They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children..

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Even High-jackings were first done by Zionists!

The first act of air piracy in the history of civil aviation was carried out by Israel, in Dec. 1954, when a civilian Syrian airliner was forced down in Tel Aviv and its passengers and crew held for days, despite international condemnation.

In 1968, Israeli commandos blew up 13 civilian airliners at Beirut airport in Lebanon.

The first deliberate shooting down a civilian airliner was carried out by Israel, when a Libyan airliner was shot down by Israeli jet fighters over Sinai, in Feb. 1973, on the direct orders of Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, killing all 107 of its passengers and the entire French crew.

November 25, 1940. In September, 1940, around 3,000 Jewish refugees from Vienna, Prague and Danzig were attempting to reach Palestine. In a convoy of four river steamers, they set sail down the Danube and reached the Romanian port of Tulcea where they transferred to three Greek cargo ships named Atlantic, Pacific and Milos. Conditions on board these three ships were horrendous, reminiscent of Japanese hell-ships later in the war. Eventually the ships reached Palestinian waters, but the British Colonial Office refused them permission to land. It was finally decided to deport the refugees to the island of Mauritius where a special camp was to be built. The three ships were then brought into Haifa harbour where the liner Patria was berthed. The refugees were then embarked on the Patria and as the last passengers from the Atlantic were coming on board, a tremendous explosion ripped the liner apart. The death toll amounted to 267 refugees killed. The explosion was the work of the Jewish underground army, the Haganah, who had meant only to damage the ship to prevent it sailing but had miscalculated the amount of explosives needed to disable the ship. Many say that this was no miscalculation and was deliberate murder of Jews by Jews, in an attempt to influence British immigration policy to Palestine.

Early in the morning of April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun (headed by Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents. The village lay outside of the area to be assigned by the United Nations to the Jewish State; it had a peaceful reputation. But it was located on high ground in the corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Deir Yassin was slated for occupation under Plan Dalet and the mainstream Jewish defense force, the Haganah, authorized the irregular terrorist forces of the Irgun and the Stern Gang to perform the takeover.

In all over 100 men, women, and children were systematically murdered. Fifty-three orphaned children were literally dumped along the wall of the Old City, where they were found by Miss Hind Husseini and brought behind the American Colony Hotel to her home, which was to become the Dar El-Tifl El-Arabi orphanage.

Part of the struggle for self-determination by Palestinians has been to tell the truth about Palestinians as victims of Zionism. For too long their history has been denied, and this denial has only served to further oppress and deliberately dehumanize Palestinians in Israel, inside the occupied territories, and outside in their diaspora.

Some progress has been made. Westerners now realize that Palestinians, as a people, do exist. And they have come to acknowledge that during the creation of the state of Israel, thousands of Palestinians were killed and over 700,000 were driven or frightened from their homes and lands on which they had lived for centuries.

http://www.deiryassin.org/

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USS Liberty Memorial

On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.

The Attack

After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning. USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter. Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap.

The Cover Up

Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact. Though administration officers continued individually to characterize the attack as deliberate, the Johnson administration never sought the prosecution of the guilty parties or otherwise attempted to seek justice for the victims. They concealed and altered evidence in their effort to downplay the attack. Though they never formally accepted the Israeli explanation that it was an accident, they never pressed for a full investigation either. They simply allowed those responsible literally to get away with murder.

In an ongoing effort to reveal the truth about the attack, the USS Liberty Veterans Association has filed with the Secretary of the Army in the manner prescribed by law a detailed, fully documented Report of War Crimes describing the circumstances of the attack on our ship and evidence that it was a crime under international law. In accordance with international law and treaties, the United States is obligated to investigate the allegations. So far, the United States has declined even to acknowledge that the report has been filed. The full text of the report can be found at http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf

Anti-Semitism and the Anti-American Apologists

The USS Liberty Memorial web site abhors the racist and extreme positions taken by antiSemitic, Holocaust denial, conspiracy theorist and other such groups which often seek to identify with us and to usurp our story as their own. We have no connection with and do not support or encourage support from any of these groups including National Alliance, National Vanguard, The New Order, National Socialists, The French Connection, Liberty Lobby, American Free Press, Republic Broadcasting, USS Liberty Radio Hour, Storm Front or other such groups. We wish harm to no one and encourage social justice and equality for everyone; we seek only accountability for the criminal acts perpetrated against us and can do that without help from hate-mongers.

On the Israeli side, the group of pro-Israel, anti-American critics of our story, while small, persists in launching loud, vicious ad hominem attacks on anyone who attempts to discuss the deliberateness of the attack. These anti-American apologists refuse to discuss the facts of the case. Instead, they rely on propaganda and charge anyone who questions the Israeli position with being antiSemitic.

For detailed and authoritative accounts of the power and influence of the pro-Israel lobby, please see The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy by Mearsheimer and Walt and The Pro-Israel Lobby by Edward Herman.

The Betrayal of American Veterans

Americans who volunteer for military service effectively write a blank check, payable to the United States of America for an amount "up to and including my life." The United States, in turn, promises to spend these checks responsibly. That bargain implicitly includes a promise by the United States to protect them and to seek retribution against anyone who harms them. In the case of USS Liberty, the United States has failed to keep its end of the bargain.



The Sabra & Shatila Massacres

On 6 June 1982, the Israeli army invaded Lebanon in what it described as 'retaliation' for the attempted assassination of Israeli Ambassador Argov in London on 4 June. The invasion, soon dubbed "Operation Peace for Galilee," progressed rapidly. By 18 June 1982, Israel had surrounded the Palestine Liberation Organisation's (PLO) armed forces in the western part of the Lebanese capital. A cease-fire, mediated by United States Envoy Philip Habib, resulted in the PLO evacuation of Beirut on 1 September 1982.

On 11 September 1982, Israeli Defence Minister Ariel Sharon, the architect of the invasion, announced that "2,000 terrorists" had remained inside the Palestinian refugee camps around Beirut. On Wednesday 15 September, the day after the assassination of Israeli-allied Phalangist militia leader and Lebanese President-elect Bashir Gemayel, the Israeli army occupied West Beirut, "encircling and sealing" the camps of Sabra and Shatila, which were inhabited by Lebanese and Palestinian civilians. By mid-day on 15 September 1982, the refugee camps were entirely surrounded by Israeli tanks and soldiers, who installed checkpoints at strategic locations and crossroads around the camps in order to monitor the entry or exit of any person. During the late afternoon and evening of that day, the camps were shelled.

Around mid-day on Thursday 16 September 1982, a unit of approximately 150 Israeli-allied Phalangists entered the first camp. For the next 40 hours members of the Phalangist militia raped, killed, and injured a large number of unarmed civilians, mostly children, women and elderly people inside the encircled and sealed camps. The estimate of victims varies between 700 (the official Israeli figure) to 3,500. The victims and survivors of the massacres have never been deemed entitled to a formal investigation of the tragedy, since Israel's Kahan Commission did not have a judicial mandate and was not backed up by legal force.

For a more in-depth account, see Circumstances of the Massacres (1,500 words) on this site.

Plaintiff Testimonies
Samiha Abbas Hijazi
Abdel Nasser Alameh
Wadha Hassan Al Sabeq
Mahmoud Younis
Fadia Ali Al Douki
Amina Hasan Mohsen
Sana Mahmoud Sersawi
Nadima Yousef Said Nasser
Mouna Ali Hussein
Shaker Abdel Ghani Natat
Bahija Zrein
Mohammed Ibrahim Faqih
Mohammed Shawqat Abu Roudeina
Fadi Abdel Qader Al Sakka
Adnan Ali Al Mekdad
Amal Hussein
Noufa Ahmad Al Khatib
Ali Salim Fayad
Ahmad Ali Al Kahtib
Nazek Abdel Rahman Al Jamal

Additional Survivor Testimonies
Mohammed Raad
Jamila Mohammed Khalife
Shahira Abu Roudeina
Hamad Mohammed Shamas
Milaneh Boutros
Najib Abdel Rahman Al Khatib

Eyewitness Testimonies
After Nineteen Years: Sabra and Shatila Remembered, by Ellen Siegel, Middle East Policy journal, Volume VIII, Number 4, December 2001.

Report of the Commission of Inquiry into the events at the refugee camps in Beirut, 8 February 1983, Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs website.



the fact that UNICEF declared 2006 'the worst year for Palestinian children'?


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http://www.counterpunch.org/levy03272006.html





watch the video;

part 2

part 3



according to Human Rights Watch, Israel has 93 checkpoints, 58 of these in West Bank alone. On top of this Israel also has 467 permanent roadblocks.

And hey do you remember how the Nazis used to force Jewish prisoners (with musical skills) in the concentration camps to entertain them as a form of humiliation? I guess the past is quickly forgotten:


So...how should we define apartheid? Maybe if we play a little quiz:

1- Which country demolishes homes?
A- Israel (4,170 Palestinian homes)

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video showing Israeli demolition of Palestinian home while the mother was still inside (she was killed):

2- Which country builds Jewish-only settlements (South African style)?
A- Israel (65 new settlements)

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3- Which country imposes curfews and checkpoints?
Israel

4- Which country has built a wall to keep Palestinians out (the last wall we had in the world was the Berlin wall)?
A- Israel

not apartheid?

BISHOP DESMOND TUTU, the South African Nobel Prize winner, described how he saw his visit to Israel "much like what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about". You say Israel and South African 'apartheid' are not comparable? Looks like Desmond Tutu would disagree.

not apartheid? This Israeli soldier would disagree;

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and of course then there's that friggen wall;

But you are right, this is not apartheid...its worse;




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Israel has had 65 UN Resolutions calling for it to halt its aggression. To date Israel has not obeyed a single one (hmmm remember how one of the reasons America attacked Iraq was because Iraq would not obey a UN resolution? Double standards maybe?): [/quote]

UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992

1. Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
13. Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
31. Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
39. Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
41. Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
42. Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
55. Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.

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Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?
Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?
Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?
Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?
Answer: Israel.

Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?
Answer: Israel.

Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?
Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?
Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?
Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?
Answer: Israel.

Question: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?
Answer: Israel.

Question: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?
Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?
Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union?
Answer: Israel.

Question: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon?
Answer: Israel.

Question: What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody?
Answer: Israel

Question: What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque.
Answer: Israel

Question: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders?
Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes?
Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S.?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress and lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign aid?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America?"
Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing.
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?
Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes?
Answer: Israel



Zionists - The Pioneers of Terrorism

Some rarely-mentioned facts about the relationship between Zionism and modern-day terrorism:

1. The first aircraft hijacking was carried out by Israel in 1954 against a Syrian civilian airliner.

2. Grenades in cafes: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Jerusalem on 17 March 1937.

3. Delayed-action, electrically timed mines in crowded marketplaces: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Haifa on 6 July 1938.

4. Blowing up a ship with its civilian passengers still on board: first carried out by Zionists in Haifa on 25 November 1940. The Zionists did not hesitate to blow up their own people in protest at the British policy of restricting Jewish immigration to Palestine. The ship, Patria, was carrying 1,700 Jewish immigrants.

5. Assassination of government officials: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Cairo, when on 6 November 1944 Lord Moyne was assassinated by the Stern Gang. Yitzhak Shamir, a member of the Irgun and later leader of the Stern Gang and Israeli prime minister, was behind the plan and assassination.

6. Use of civilian hostages as a means of putting pressure on a government: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv on 18 June 1946.

7. Blowing up of government offices with their civilian employees and visitors: first carried out by the Zionists against the British in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946. The toll was 91 Britons killed and 46 wounded in the King David Hotel. Menachim Begin, who masterminded and carried out the attack and later became Israeli prime minister, admitted that the massacre was coordinated with and carried out under the instruction of the Haganah Zionist gang.

8. Booby-trapped suitcases: first used by the Zionists against the British Embassy in Rome on 13 October 1946.

9. Booby-trapped cars in civilian areas: first used by the Zionists against the British in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5 December 1946.

10. Beating of hostages: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv, Netanya and Rishon on 29 December 1946.

11. Letter bombs sent to politicians: first used by the Zionists against Britain when 20 letter bombs were sent from Italy to London between 4 and 6 June 1947.

12. Murder of hostages as a reprisal for government actions: first used by the Zionists against the British in the Netanya area on 29 July 1947.

13. Postal parcel bombs: first used by the Zionists against the British in London on 3 September 1947.

14. The massacre of Qibya, northwest of Jerusalem, was carried out by Unit 101, under the command of Ariel Sharon on Wednesday 14 October 1953. The attack was the bloodiest and most brutal Zionist crimes since the infamous Deir Yassin massacre. Forty-two houses as well as a school and a mosque were dynamited over their inhabitants. Seventy-five women, men and children were killed.



Fake Terror

Israeli security service of tricking young Palestinians into conducting missions in the name of Al-Qaida.


Palestinians arrest al-Qaeda 'poseurs'


Mossad Exposed in Phony `Palestinian Al-Qaeda' Caper


Israeli terror suspect falls; cops eye link to al-Qaeda


Its then no wonder that former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the 9/11 attacks would mean for US-Israeli relationshe replied; "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

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Israel responded to an unprovoked attack by Hizbullah, right? Wrong
The assault on Lebanon was premeditated - the soldiers' capture simply provided the excuse. It was also unnecessary


George Monbiot
The Guardian, Tuesday 8 August 2006

Whatever we think of Israel's assault on Lebanon, all of us seem to agree about one fact: that it was a response, however disproportionate, to an unprovoked attack by Hizbullah. I repeated this "fact" in my last column, when I wrote that "Hizbullah fired the first shots". This being so, the Israeli government's supporters ask peaceniks like me, what would you have done? It's an important question. But its premise, I have now discovered, is flawed.

Since Israel's withdrawal from southern Lebanon in May 2000, there have been hundreds of violations of the "blue line" between the two countries. The United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) reports that Israeli aircraft crossed the line "on an almost daily basis" between 2001 and 2003, and "persistently" until 2006. These incursions "caused great concern to the civilian population, particularly low-altitude flights that break the sound barrier over populated areas". On some occasions, Hizbullah tried to shoot them down with anti-aircraft guns.

In October 2000, the Israel Defence Forces shot at unarmed Palestinian demonstrators on the border, killing three and wounding 20. In response, Hizbullah crossed the line and kidnapped three Israeli soldiers. On several occasions, Hizbullah fired missiles and mortar rounds at IDF positions, and the IDF responded with heavy artillery and sometimes aerial bombardment. Incidents like this killed three Israelis and three Lebanese in 2003; one Israeli soldier and two Hizbullah fighters in 2005; and two Lebanese people and three Israeli soldiers in February 2006. Rockets were fired from Lebanon into Israel several times in 2004, 2005 and 2006, on some occasions by Hizbullah. But, the UN records, "none of the incidents resulted in a military escalation".

On May 26 this year, two officials of Islamic Jihad - Nidal and Mahmoud Majzoub - were killed by a car bomb in the Lebanese city of Sidon. This was widely assumed in Lebanon and Israel to be the work of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency. In June, a man named Mahmoud Rafeh confessed to the killings and admitted that he had been working for Mossad since 1994. Militants in southern Lebanon responded, on the day of the bombing, by launching eight rockets into Israel. One soldier was lightly wounded. There was a major bust-up on the border, during which one member of Hizbullah was killed and several wounded, and one Israeli soldier wounded. But while the border region "remained tense and volatile", Unifil says it was "generally quiet" until July 12.

There has been a heated debate on the internet about whether the two Israeli soldiers kidnapped by Hizbullah that day were captured in Israel or in Lebanon, but it now seems pretty clear that they were seized in Israel. This is what the UN says, and even Hizbullah seems to have forgotten that they were supposed to have been found sneaking around the outskirts of the Lebanese village of Aita al-Shaab. Now it simply states that "the Islamic resistance captured two Israeli soldiers at the border with occupied Palestine". Three other Israeli soldiers were killed by the militants. There is also some dispute about when, on July 12, Hizbullah first fired its rockets; but Unifil makes it clear that the firing took place at the same time as the raid - 9am. Its purpose seems to have been to create a diversion. No one was hit.

But there is no serious debate about why the two soldiers were captured: Hizbullah was seeking to exchange them for the 15 prisoners of war taken by the Israelis during the occupation of Lebanon and (in breach of article 118 of the third Geneva convention) never released. It seems clear that if Israel had handed over the prisoners, it would - without the spillage of any more blood - have retrieved its men and reduced the likelihood of further kidnappings. But the Israeli government refused to negotiate. Instead - well, we all know what happened instead. Almost 1,000 Lebanese and 33 Israeli civilians have been killed so far, and a million Lebanese displaced from their homes.

On July 12, in other words, Hizbullah fired the first shots. But that act of aggression was simply one instance in a long sequence of small incursions and attacks over the past six years by both sides. So why was the Israeli response so different from all that preceded it? The answer is that it was not a reaction to the events of that day. The assault had been planned for months.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that "more than a year ago, a senior Israeli army officer began giving PowerPoint presentations, on an off-the-record basis, to US and other diplomats, journalists and thinktanks, setting out the plan for the current operation in revealing detail". The attack, he said, would last for three weeks. It would begin with bombing and culminate in a ground invasion. Gerald Steinberg, professor of political science at Bar-Ilan University, told the paper that "of all of Israel's wars since 1948, this was the one for which Israel was most prepared ... By 2004, the military campaign scheduled to last about three weeks that we're seeing now had already been blocked out and, in the last year or two, it's been simulated and rehearsed across the board".

A "senior Israeli official" told the Washington Post that the raid by Hizbullah provided Israel with a "unique moment" for wiping out the organisation. The New Statesman's editor, John Kampfner, says he was told by more than one official source that the US government knew in advance of Israel's intention to take military action in Lebanon. The Bush administration told the British government.

Israel's assault, then, was premeditated: it was simply waiting for an appropriate excuse. It was also unnecessary. It is true that Hizbullah had been building up munitions close to the border, as its current rocket attacks show. But so had Israel. Just as Israel could assert that it was seeking to deter incursions by Hizbullah, Hizbullah could claim - also with justification - that it was trying to deter incursions by Israel. The Lebanese army is certainly incapable of doing so. Yes, Hizbullah should have been pulled back from the Israeli border by the Lebanese government and disarmed. Yes, the raid and the rocket attack on July 12 were unjustified, stupid and provocative, like just about everything that has taken place around the border for the past six years. But the suggestion that Hizbullah could launch an invasion of Israel or that it constitutes an existential threat to the state is preposterous. Since the occupation ended, all its acts of war have been minor ones, and nearly all of them reactive.

So it is not hard to answer the question of what we would have done. First, stop recruiting enemies, by withdrawing from the occupied territories in Palestine and Syria. Second, stop provoking the armed groups in Lebanon with violations of the blue line - in particular the persistent flights across the border. Third, release the prisoners of war who remain unlawfully incarcerated in Israel. Fourth, continue to defend the border, while maintaining the diplomatic pressure on Lebanon to disarm Hizbullah (as anyone can see, this would be much more feasible if the occupations were to end). Here then is my challenge to the supporters of the Israeli government: do you dare to contend that this programme would have caused more death and destruction than the current adventure has done?



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Today, to trace anyone's descent to ancient Palestine would be a genealogical impossibility; and to presume, axiomatically, such a descent for Jews, alone among all human groups, is an assumption of purely fictional significance. Most everybody in the Western world could stake out some claim of Palestinian descent if genealogical records could be established for two-thousand years. And there are, indeed, people who, though not by the widest stretch of imagination Jewish, proudly make that very claim: some of the oldest of the South's aristocratic families play a game of comparing whose lineage goes farther back into 'Israel'. No one knows what happened to the Ten Lost Tribes of 'Israel', but to speculate on who might be who is a favored Anglo-Saxon pastime, and Queen Victoria belonged to an 'Israelite' Society that traced the ancestry of its membership back to those lost tribes.

Twelve tribes started in Canaan about thirty-five centuries ago; and not only that ten of them disappeared - more than half of the members of the remaining two tribes never returned from their "exile" in Babylon. How then, can anybody claim to descend directly from that relatively small community which inhabited the Holy Land at the time of Abraham's Covenant with God?

The Jewish racial myth flows from the fact that the words Hebrew, 'Israelite', Jew, Judaism, and the Jewish people have been used synonymously to suggest a historic continuity. But this is a misuse. These words refer to different groups of people with varying ways of life in different periods in history. Hebrew is a term correctly applied to the period from the beginning of Biblical history to the settling in Canaan. 'Israelite' refers correctly to the members of the twelve tribes of 'Israel'. The name Yehudi or Jew is used in the Old Testament to designate members of the tribe of Judah, descendants of the fourth son of Jacob, as well as to denote citizens of the Kingdom of Judah, particularly at the time of Jeremiah and under the Persian occupation. Centuries later, the same word came to be applied to anyone, no matter of what origin, whose religion was Judaism.

The descriptive name Judaism was never heard by the Hebrews or 'Israelites'; it appears only with Christianity. Flavius Josephus was one of the first to use the name in his recital of the war with the Romans to connote a totality of beliefs, moral commandments, religious practices and ceremonial institutions of Galilee which he believed superior to rival Hellenism. When the word Judaism was born, there was no longer a Hebrew-'Israelite' state. The people who embraced the creed of Judaism were already mixed of many races and strains; and this diversification was rapidly growing...

Perhaps the most significant mass conversion to the Judaic faith occurred in Europe, in the 8th century A.D., and that story of the Khazars (Turko-Finnish people) is quite pertinent to the establishment of the modern State of 'Israel'. This partly nomadic people, probably related to the Volga Bulgars, first appeared in Trans-Caucasia in the second century. They settled in what is now Southern Russia, between the Volga and the Don, and then spread to the shores of the Black, Caspian and Azov seas. The Kingdom of Khazaria, ruled by a khagan or khakan fell to Attila the Hun in 448, and to the Muslims in 737. In between, the Khazars ruled over part of the Bulgarians, conquered the Crimea, and stretched their kingdom over the Caucasus farther to the northwest to include Kiev, and eastwards to Derbend. Annual tributes were levied on the Russian Slavonians of Kiev. The city of Kiev was probably built by the Khazars. There were Jews in the city and the surrounding area before the Russian Empire was founded by the Varangians whom the Scandinavian warriors sometimes called the Russ or Ross (circa 855-863).

The influence of the Khazars extended into what is now Hungary and Roumania. Today, the villages of Kozarvar and Kozard in Transylvania bear testimony to the penetration of the Khazars who, with the Magyars, then proceeded into present-day Hungary. The size and power of the Kingdom of Khazaria is indicated by the act that it sent an army of 40,000 soldiers (in 626-627) to help Heraclius of the Byzantines to conquer the Persians. The Jewish Encyclopedia proudly refers to Khazaria as having had a "well constituted and tolerant government, a flourishing trade and a well disciplined army."

Jews who had been banished from Constantinople by the Byzantine ruler, Leo III, found a home amongst these heretofore pagan Khazars and, in competition with Mohammedan and Christian missionaries, won them over to the Judaic faith. Bulan, the ruler of Khazaria, became converted to Judaism around 740 A.D. His nobles and, somewhat later, his people followed suit. Some details of these events are contained in letters exchanged between Khagan Joseph of Khazaria and R. Hasdai Ibn Shaprut of Cordova, doctor and quasi foreign minister to Sultan Abd al-Rahman, the Caliph of Spain. This correspondence (around 936-950) was first published in 1577 to prove that the Jews still had a country of their own - namely, the Kingdom of Khazaria. Judah Halevi knew of the letters even in 1140. Their authenticity has since been established beyond doubt.

According to these Hasdai-Joseph letters, Khagan Bulan decided one day: "Paganism is useless. It is shameful for us to be pagans. Let us adopt one of the heavenly religions, Christianity, Judaism or Islam." And Bulan summoned three priests representing the three religions and had them dispute their creeds before him. But, no priest could convince the others, or the sovereign, that his religion was the best. So the ruler spoke to each of them separately. He asked the Christian priest: "If you were not a Christian or had to give up Christianity, which would you prefer - Islam or Judaism?" The priest said: "If I were to give up Christianity, I would become a Jew." Bulan then asked the follower of Islam the same question, and the Moslem also chose Judaism. This is how Bulan came to choose Judaism for himself and the people of Khazaria in the seventh century A.D., and thereafter the Khazars (sometimes spelled Chazars and Khozars) lived according to Judaic laws.

Under the rule of Obadiah, Judaism gained further strength in Khazaria. Synagogues and schools were built to give instruction in the Bible and the Talmud. As Professor Graetz notes in his History of the Jews, "A successor of Bulan who bore the Hebrew name of Obadiah was the first to make serious efforts to further the Jewish religion. He invited Jewish sages to settle in his dominions, rewarded them royally... and introduced a divine service modeled on the ancient communities. After Obadiah came a long series of Jewish Chagans (Khagans), for according to a fundamental law of the state only Jewish rulers were permitted to ascend the throne." Khazar traders brought not only silks and carpets of Persia and the Near East but also their Judaic faith to the banks of the Vistula and the Volga. But the Kingdom of Khazaria was invaded by the Russians, and Itil, its great capital, fell to Sweatoslav of Kiev in 969. The Byzantines had become afraid and envious of the Khazars and, in a joint expedition with the Russians, conquered the Crimean portion of Khazaria in 1016. (Crimea was known as "Chazaria" until the 13th century). The Khazarian Jews were scattered throughout what is now Russia and Eastern Europe. Some were taken North where they joined the established Jewish community of Kiev.

Others returned to the Caucasus. Many Khazars remarried in the Crimea and in Hungary. The Cagh Chafut, or "mountain Jews," in the Caucasus and the Hebraile Jews of Georgia are their descendants. These "Ashkenazim Jews" (as Jews of Eastern Europe are called), whose numbers were swelled by Jews who fled from Germany at the time of the Crusades and during the Black Death, have little or no trace of Semitic blood.

That the Khazars are the lineal ancestors of Eastern European Jewry is a historical fact. Jewish historians and religious text books acknowledge the fact, though the propagandists of Jewish nationalism belittle it as pro-Arab propaganda. Somewhat ironically, Volume IV of the Jewish Encyclopedia - because this publication spells Khazars with a "C" instead of a "K" - is titled "Chazars to Dreyfus": and it was the Dreyfus trial, as interpreted by Theodor Herzl, that made the modern Jewish Khazars of Russia forget their descent from converts to Judaism and accept anti-Semitism as proof of their Palestinian origin.

For all that anthropologists know, Hitler's ancestry might go back to one of the ten Lost Tribes of 'Israel'; while Weizmann may be a descendant of the Khazars, the converts to Judaism who were in no anthropological respect related to Palestine. The home to which Weizmann, Silver and so many other Ashkenazim Zionists have yearned to return has most likely never been theirs. "Here's a paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox": in anthropological fact, many Christians may have much more Hebrew-'Israelite' blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors.

Race can play funny tricks on people who make that concept the basis for their likes and dislikes. Race-obsessed people can find themselves hating people who, in fact, may be their own racial kith and kin.


Careful research by top Jewish archaeologist Israel Finkelstein from the Tel Aviv University has uncovered the shocking truth behind the Old Testament stories about the origins of the Jewish State of Israel . . . it didnt happen that way.

Christians and Jewish religious leaders cried heresy in 2001 when Israel Finkelstein, chairman of the university's Archaeology Department, and historian journalist Neil Asher Silberman published 'The Bible Unearthed: Archaeologys New Version of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Text'.

Yet another Tel Aviv archaeologist, Ze'ev Herzog, beat them to the punch when he published a magazine and newspaper article in 1999 that also blew the whistle on the twisted Bible stories.

In essence, they are all saying that archaeological research shows that the Israelites were never in Egypt, they never wandered in the desert, they never conquered the land of Canaan in a military campaign and the land was never passed on to the twelve tribes of Israel.

Also, the walls of Jericho never came crashing down, and there was never an empire of Israel under the reign of Kings David and Solomon. If they existed at all, David and Solomon headed modest chiefdoms.

The stories of the great patriarchs like Abraham, Isaac and Joseph are also in question because the scholars are finding the Bible stories filled with inconsistencies. The ancient Egyptians left no evidence that the Israelites were ever in Egypt, and the Sinai Peninsula lacks any evidence of the large encampments required for so many people to have made during 40 years of living in the desert.

In his book, Finkelstein theorizes that the Israelites were among the many nomadic shepherd tribes that existed among the Canaanites. If so, it means they came from the same genetic origins as the other people in the Middle East, including the Palestinians, and that the grand national myth of a people chosen by God to rule the "Promised Land" is just that, a myth without basic for fact.

The famous battle of Jericho, as told in the Book of Joshua, also is debunked by archaeological evidence. It turns out that the city of Jericho didn't exist at the time this event was supposed to have happened. Once it did exist, the city had no walls.

The story of David, whose army captured Jerusalem and established a vast united empire, and his son, Solomon, who reportedly acquired great wealth and built the first temple, is perhaps the core of the Israeli myth of ownership and superiority over the Palestinians who occupied the land until the Jews were driven to the area during World War II.

Authors Finkelstein and Silberman suggest in their book that it was Josiah, a descending king over a more developed Jerusalem who lived over 300 years after David, who ordered the transcription of the Old Testament stories. Josiah apparently believed, as have many great rulers since, that a national scripture was needed to cement a monotheistic religious orthodoxy. The Old Testament stories have continued to generate a national identity for the new Israel even today.

Amy Dockser Marcus, author of The View From Nebo: How Archaeology Is Rewriting the Bible and Reshaping the Middle East, notes that certain things like monumental structures, royal documents, or national scripture like the Old Testament, are almost always "a sign of state formation, in which power is centralized in national institutions like an official cult or monarchy."


Did the Biblical "Israel" Exist?


"Nowhere in Torah (also called the Pentateuch, or the first five books of the Bible) is there any mention of Jerusalem let alone a temple anywhere in Jerusalem. And to a Jew, the Torah is God's law and blueprint for all mankind's peaceful existence" - Stephen M. St. John

"The adoption of the name “Israel†by the Zionist state which was set up in Palestine in 1948 was transparent false pretense" - Douglas Reed (Controversy of Zion)

"Nay, not only are there no proofs of the twelve tribes of Israel having ever existed, but Herodotus, the most accurate of historians, who was in Assyria when Ezra flourished, never mentions the Israelites at all…How is this possible?" - Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (The Secret Doctrine, vol 3)

"Anything like a pure bred tribe of Judah must have disappeared some centuries before Christ, at the latest" - Douglas Reed (Controversy of Zion)

"Hebrew was never spoken by the Aramaic people of Syria, the so-called Jews, or by the people of any other countries. It was used by the ancient Irish priesthood of Iesa, precisely as Latin is today used in the Roman Church to impress the multitude" - Conor Mac Dari

"In the following sections, we will endeavor to unravel the mysteries of the races, tribes and cults, and to show clearly where the symbolism which they all employed actually came from. We will show that even though the symbols detailed here were certainly used by tribes and races calling themselves "Jewish" and "Christian," etc., they are of far earlier origins. They came into the possession of eastern peoples after a historically distant period of traversals and migrations from West to East, journeys which have been obscured and consciously expunged from history.

The new history of Palestine’s peoples and their distant beginnings stems almost entirely from archaeological and linguistic research undertaken over the past fifty years. It presents a picture so radically unfamiliar, and so very different from a biblical view as to be hardly recognizable to the writers of the Bible" - Thomas L. Thompson (The Mythic Past: Biblical Archaeology and the Myth of Israel)

"When we start with Israel...we need to recognize that our understanding of Israel as a people and as a nation is unrelated to any known historical Israel" -Thomas L. Thompson (The Mythic Past, Biblical Archaeology and the Myth of Israel)

"Of course, there was an Israel! The name itself is used already at the close of the Late Bronze Age on an Egyptian monument to refer to the People of Canaan that Pharaoh Merenptah's military campaign into Palestine fought against. But this is not the Israel that the Bible deals with." -Thomas L. Thompson (The Mythic Past, Biblical Archaeology and the Myth of Israel)

"As a whole, we historians have not done very well in using Biblical stories to write our history with. If one feels bound to understand the history of Israel as a revision of the Bible's traditions, one must admit the near total lack of warrant that these stories have for being accepted as historical." -Thomas L. Thompson (The Mythic Past, Biblical Archaeology and the Myth of Israel)

"Because of the false but very common idea that the Jews of today are all that remain of the ancient Israel people, it becomes necessary here to point out that, with the exception of a very few individuals, none of the ten-tribed house of Israel and only a very small remnant of the two-tribed House of Judah ever returned to Palestine after their deportation to Assyria and Babylon. With the fall of the empires...the tribes, groups and clans and became a part of that great north-western migration of peoples into and across Europe which took place in the centuries just before the beginning of the Christian era." -W. H. Bennet (Symbols of our Celto-Saxon Heritage)

"...it was impossible for any Jew at this time to describe himself truthfully as of the tribe of Benjamin...the Benjaminites later intermarried with the tribe of Judah to such an extent that they lost their separate identity and all became Judites or Jews. Only the Levites, the priestly tribe, and that section of the Levites called the Kohanim (Cohens) or priests (the descendents of Aaron) retained their identity because they needed to do so for cultic reasons. All other Jews were simply known as Israelites for cultic purposes...and no distinction was made for any religious purpose between Judites or Benjaminites, so that there was no motive for preserving the distinction. Consequently, when Paul described himself as "of the Tribe of Benjamin," this was sheer bluff, though the recipients of his letters, the Gentile converts to Christianity, were in no position to know this." - From Hebrew scholar Hyam Maccoby's The Mythmaker: Paul and the Invention of Christianity

"The Books of Samuel, Judges and Kings are supposed to cover nearly 1000 years of Jewish history, yet they make no reference to Jahveh’s talks with Moses: they say nothing about the miracles Moses performed in Egypt, his passage to the Red Sea or his wanderings in the Wilderness. Nor do they make any allusions to the stories given in Genesis of Creation, Adam and Eve and the Deluge. Although the names of Abraham, Issac, Jacob and Moses are mentioned a few times, nothing is said about their lives and they are treated as if they were merely obscure, legendary figures." - Ernest Busenbark (Symbols, Sex and the Stars)

"Strange as it may seem, and difficult as it is to mentally take on-board, it remains an incontestable fact that NO EVIDENCE whatsoever exists to support the legitimacy of a topographically placed Israelite nation, during the times given in the Bible and by so-called Biblical "experts." From the disciplines of archaeology, ethnology, history, and geography, there comes precious little evidence supporting any Biblical claim to the affirmative. There is no evidence for a United Israelite Monarchy; no evidence for a physical location, in ancient times, called Jerusalem, nor for a Temple of Jerusalem. There is no evidence of wars for Palestinian conquest, and no evidence for kings of Israel and Judah (Saul, David, Solomon). Yes, we have the Bible's vexatious and spurious stories of their existence, but tragically difficult as it is for most people to comprehend - stories are not proof. Sadly, of the many miracles mentioned in the Bible, and by the clergy, the miracle of how people came to believe in utter nonsense was never elucidated.

Palestine never developed a political power of any great international significance. It was always so divided by its many small regions that it never developed a common history except when it was controlled by some power from outside, such as Egypt, Assyria and Babylonia. High culture, as expressed in art, architecture, literature and pageant, hardly existed. Most of what has survived is either foreign in origins or derivative from Phoenicia on the Syrian coast." -Thomas L. Thompson (The Mythic Past, Biblical Archaeology and the Myth of Israel)
 

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The interesting thing is that those who claim to be Jews and can apparently trace their lineage to Israel, are statistically far more likely not to be Israelites at all but Canaanites since by the time of the return from the Babylonian captivity in the 5th Century BC, the whole area of Israel was populated by Edomites who had flourished and populated the whole area in the absence of the Israelites.

The Jews had no choice but to allow these Edomites to become 'Jews'...... but in effect what has happened is that the pagan tribes the Israelites had initially displaced from the land.....had their revenge......and the ancient quest for Esau's revenge on the line of Jacob, began when the Edomites became Jews....

What is Judaism now, and what began with the Pharisees and later Rabbinical Judaism, is in effect a religion created by Edomite Canaanites.... who have an ancestral obligation to destroy the offspring of Jacob: The (true) Israelites......

This is why we have the Kabbalah, the 'oral tradition', ritual sacrifice of goys, banking, 'Jewish' paedophilia, Jewish perversion, the promotion of homosexuality, transgenderism, pornography.... None of these values are Israelite values, but they are certainly Canaanite ones.....

Now you know this, you know something even most 'Jews' do not know.....they genuinely believe they are of the line of Israel.....

Only the most elite and evil of this group know the truth.....you would call that The Illluminati....
 

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The whole Esau Jacob thing is a complete psychological reversal of the truth.

Its justification for how Jews are taught to behave toward European people in particular.

In his Esau Jacob scenario of theirs , we are born hating Jews FOR NO REASON.

According to them we just naturally enter this world hating Jews.

Its in our very soul apparently and again according to them FOR NO REASON.

They are taught that they can and have never done wrong to anyone and its just this innate hatred of the Jews thats the issue.

Having spent some time looking into this sort of thing I began to realize that it really isn't going to make much difference trying to claim either distance or kinship with them. Neither will it make much difference entering into lengthy debates on biblical genealogy with them.

They are what they are and have come to be.

Tikum Olam is their mission " Heal the World "

But once you find out what the world needs " healing " from in their opinion it becomes typical Jewish pilpul.

Tikun Olam might translate as heal the world , however what it ultimately means is rule the world , a world ruled by Jews.

Amazing how well they are able to project their desires into their enemy , accusing them of desiring the very thing they wake up and work toward everyday.

If Evil was a people .....
 

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But that's the point....it is THEY who are the offspring of Esau.... The Edomites....and they swore revenge on the line of Jacob... at least that's the story...... but what better way to avenge yourself than by hijacking their religion.

The reason they are persecuting the West is because Europeans are the true Israelites. Where did those ten tribes go? They didn't just vanish into thin-air....they went West..... At least it's possible....no-one knows for sure...

What the Edomite fake Jews have done to Christianity and our societies, namely corrupting them completely, is something they first did to Judaism. So they have a lot of practise....

Jesus knew who they were... ..and he publicly outed them...for this he was killed.

https://biblehub.com/john/8-39.htm
“Abraham is our father,” they replied.

“If you were children of Abraham,” said Jesus, “you would do the works of Abraham. But now you are trying to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham never did such a thing. You are doing the works of your father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they declared. “Our only Father is God Himself.”

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on My own, but He sent Me.

Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me!
 
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Regardless of who they are , what they have become is a neurotic and sociopathic collective of liars and bearded mystics.

Their neurotic beliefs and behavior has the knock on effect of implanting the same neurosis into the minds of the people subjected to their every whim.

You can see it playing out in the world now they control education and media entirely.

Everything is one neurotic state of persecution after another, on an individual and collective level.

I loathe them and everything they have become.
 

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G'day Truthspoon.

Firstly and foremost, you are entitled to believe whatever you choose to believe, whether that be a belief in a deity, along with all that such entails, or the belief of the 'evil nature' of all others that follow a different deity, or the flying spaghetti monster, whatever it is, I believe it is your choice and you alone are the one to make that choice.

Having said that, I personally believe that there is no singular religion on this planet. By this I mean that there is no all encompassing religion of one set of beliefs. Why do I state this?

Well, for example, christianity has over 38,000 different denominations, most, if not all, claiming to be the 'true religion' of christianity, whether it be the Westboro Baptist Church lead by Fred Phelps (dubbed the most hated family in America), the Mormons, the Jehovah Witnesses, the Seventh Day Adventists, Protestants, Evangelicals, Unitings, Uniteds, Pentacostals, Presbyterians, Quakers, Anglicans, Alexandrian Rites, Armenian Rites, Byzantine Rites, East Syriacs, West Syriacs or the Roman Catholic Church, etc., etc., etc. (38,000+ times).

Such claims of 'unity' within any religion is fallacious. Therefore, any claims against one religious group is based in a fallacy because there is no one religious group. This goes hand-in-hand with, they [whichever opposition grouping] want to destroy us [add in religious grouping playing the victim card].

Again, personally, any claims of anyone using a deity to claim superiority over all others that do not believe as they do are also fallacious, a logical fallacy and something that cannot be shown to be true, that is, it cannot be verified. No religious follower has been able to present verifiable evidence of the existence of their chosen deity IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY !!!

As far as I am concerned, any belief based on any deity is fallacious and done to act out the fallacy of having some form of superiority over others in whatever way, shape or form that this claim of superiority may take. Further, such beliefs are for the sole purpose of controlling those claimed to be 'inferior'.

The whole system of control is a claim of superiority of one group over another, which is 'spoon-fed' to everyone through the in-doc-tri-nation system, with the politically correct nomenclature of the 'education system', that is designed for the purpose of enslaving one grouping (the majority) by another grouping (the minority) with the idea of a 'hierarchy structure' where the minority grouping are already in the highest ranks of the 'hierarchy structure' and the majority grouping are in the lowest ranks of the 'hierarchy structure'. This is to inculcate the further division of the majority grouping into sub-groupings that can then be set against each other so that the majority grouping is infighting to the point of ignoring the realisation that the majority grouping can overcome the minority grouping at any point by uniting against the minority grouping.

This is inherent within the belief in any deity. The 'hierarchy structure' has the same premise of the inherent idea of 'superior' vs 'inferior', where the 'superior' grouping choose themselves to be the 'superior' grouping and everyone else are the 'inferior' grouping. As George Carlin stated (words to the effect of), 'it's THEIR club and you're not IN IT!'.

It is inherent within academics, as shown explicitly during 'covid mandate' madness where the 'majority' bowed to the claims of the 'minority' without any reasoning or logical foundation within reality.

It is the 'hierarchy structure' that is identified as, 'us vs them', 'right vs wrong', 'good vs bad', 'male vs female', etc., etc., the system of duality and ... it ... does ... not ... exist ... within ... reality !!!

Thus any and all claims of one 'religious grouping' vs another 'religious grouping', as explained above, are based on the inherent fallacy of the 'hierarchy structure' and therefore are a part of the in-doc-tri-nation propaganda that has the purpose of enslaving the majority by the minority grouping.

Religious promotional material has no relevance in a rational and logical discussion because of the inherent fallacy of the belief in deity that engenders the 'hierarchy structure' that has the purpose of enslaving the majority grouping by the minority grouping.

Religious promotional material is also an 'appeal to authority', another logical fallacy.

You see, I enjoy thinking for myself and coming to my own conclusions based upon reasoned and logical verifiable evidence, sometimes called 'Common Sense' !!!
 
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Hi I AM....I do not believe I have actually made reference to any religious beliefs in this thread....merely reported what Jesus Christ said to the Pharisees. This is a relevant source to the thread in question and quoting this historical source is no more an identifier of religious belief than quoting from Julius Caesar's The Gallic Wars, for instance, makes you a believer in the Roman Imperial pagan cult.

No need to make this a religious discussion.....it's a thread about 'Israel' and whatever that represents.

Let's stay focussed.... I don't think having a discussion about whatever personal religious beliefs you and I may have will be in the least fruitful here and it is wholly unnecessary.

Cheers.
 
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Most of the Edomites are not bearded..... though admittedly part of the genetic legacy of Esau is excess hairiness, which is why Jacob apparently wore animal hair in order to trick his father Isaac into believing he was Esau, and thus 'stole' his blessing. Weird story, weird times.

They used to be excessively hairy and bearded, but when they migrated to the United States they Anglicised their Jewish names and shaved their beards so as to pass among us unsuspected... Now the only bearded Jews are probably Orthodox and they are not the ones who are instrumental in destroying our civilisation.... this explains why most Jews are now secular atheistic Jews.....these Edomite Jews do not even pretend to follow their own religion, they just hide behind ethnic gangsterism and the immunity of the world's perceived victim.
 

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Not that it's the be all and end all but it's the Orthodox Jews with the Kapparot Chicken sacrifices.

Essentially another nullification of blame.

The chicken takes the blame for any sins the Jew committed and the chickens soul goes to Hell instead of theirs.

I mean sincerely , that sounds like some dark magic to me.

Also , it would be in the Orthodox world view that they are still Gods chosen people and God wants them to rule the world and put the rest of us straight. No doubt with a bit of chicken whirling to boot.

Can't help but think they are missing the point about God and this world.

The more I have researched what Judaism believes the more it appears concerned with Earthly desire and wealth etc.

Which to my senses when thinking about God and the nature of the soul , doesn't seem to add up. Doesn't seem very true so to speak.
 

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I'm not siding with Orthodox Jews here..... but if all you've got against them is what they do to chickens....then maybe have a word with the French....they do far worse things to geese.

I'd say it's important to know your real enemy.....Orthodox Jews are not the people pushing transgenderism, they are not the people involved in the banking industry, they are not the people behind the paedophile blackmail of our politicians...

The people who are, at the lower levels, are atheistic secular 'Jews', though in reality they are not Jews, but at the higher levels they are out and out Kabbalistic Satan worshippers.
 

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Hi I AM....I do not believe I have actually made reference to any religious beliefs in this thread....merely reported what Jesus Christ said to the Pharisees. This is a relevant source to the thread in question and quoting this historical source is no more an identifier of religious belief than quoting from Julius Caesar's The Gallic Wars, for instance, makes you a believer in the Roman Imperial pagan cult.

No need to make this a religious discussion.....it's a thread about 'Israel' and whatever that represents.

Let's stay focussed.... I don't think having a discussion about whatever personal religious beliefs you and I may have will be in the least fruitful here and it is wholly unnecessary.

Cheers.

G'day Truthspoon.

Both "Jesus Christ" and the bible are "religious beliefs".

Both are the reason why I responded in the manner in which I did in the previous post.

Both are far from the reason that I started this thread "about 'Israel'", which is why it has the title "The Israel State".

Neither are a "historical source".

I offer no free passes to anyone quoting religious promotional material, no matter which religion it is from. :thumbup:
 

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I'm not siding with Orthodox Jews here..... but if all you've got against them is what they do to chickens....then maybe have a word with the French....they do far worse things to geese.

I'd say it's important to know your real enemy.....Orthodox Jews are not the people pushing transgenderism, they are not the people involved in the banking industry, they are not the people behind the paedophile blackmail of our politicians...

The people who are, at the lower levels, are atheistic secular 'Jews', though in reality they are not Jews, but at the higher levels they are out and out Kabbalistic Satan worshippers.

" im not siding with Orthodox Jews ... but .... "

Sacrificing chickens , blood ritual

Pretty old school tbh

Anything else the Orthodox Jews do that can be excused because of the French ?

Interesting line of thinking
 

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G'day Truthspoon.

Both "Jesus Christ" and the bible are "religious beliefs".

Both are the reason why I responded in the manner in which I did in the previous post.

Both are far from the reason that I started this thread "about 'Israel'", which is why it has the title "The Israel State".

Neither are a "historical source".

I offer no free passes to anyone quoting religious promotional material, no matter which religion it is from. :thumbup:

Jesus Christ is a historical figure.... Quoting him in this context is historically relevant...

The New Testament is a historical source, It was written by people who had direct experience of the Jewish powers of the time and were in direct conflict with it. Jesus and most of the apostles were murdered by the Jewish authorities..

Probably the best source if you want to know what the Jewish authorities were like at that time and how historical events, led to the current State of Israel.

The past and present are of course, intrinsically connected. To understand the present, you have to go back to the past.
 
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And the command to blot out the memory of Amalek when their promised land is given to them ?

Thats Orthodox Judaism

Is it not ?
 
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