Ukraine conflict real or theatre?

[roastie]

Listen from 4 minutes in for about 3 minutes

This isn't an endorsement of the Russian Government as they may well be part of an orchestrated
conflict, but if not Lavrov is speaking the truth about the hypocrisy of the Western media. He shuts
down that awful Cathy Newman (Channel Four News) down with precision..

 

[roastie]

The stage was set.

7 October 2020

Prince William and Kate welcome Ukraine president at palace​

London’s Buckingham Palace held its first royal event in more than six months on Wednesday as Prince William and his wife Kate welcomed Ukraine’s president and his wife

 

[roastie]

Truth or fiction?

If true then we know the Royal Jewish (Rothschild/Goldsmith) family have much more clout than most people know about.

Prince William made secret visit to MI6 just hours before Russian invasion of Ukraine​

According to the Court Circular, Prince William privately visited MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service, which deals with foreign intelligence and protects the UK from risks abroad, yesterday morning

William made secret visit to MI6 just hours before Russian invasion of Ukraine

According to the Court Circular, Prince William privately visited MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service, which deals with foreign intelligence and protects the UK from risks abroad, yesterday morning

www.mirror.co.uk

Three week stint with intelleigence services in 2019

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

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Three week stint with intelleigence services in 2019
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G'day Roastie.

Is that because he didn't have any of his own?

 

[roastie]

It can't be just me. This is a clown world

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499780728116101123

 

[roastie]

Listen from 4 minutes in for about 3 minutes

This isn't an endorsement of the Russian Government as they may well be part of an orchestrated
conflict, but if not Lavrov is speaking the truth about the hypocrisy of the Western media. He shuts
down that awful Cathy Newman (Channel Four News) down with precision..

Lavrov "Even the barracks where the Ukrainian army reside are not subject to any attacks"

4 minutes 50 seconds into video

So Russia could end this today, but choose or are told not to do so.

 

[roastie]

Mail online is currently showing this emotive image with misleading text


"A Ukrainian soldier was pictured rescuing a tiny baby from a scene of total devastation in Irpin, including what appeared to be a bombed-out bridge, in a harrowing image that summed up the atrocity of the ongoing war"

Yet I found this Getty Images photo of the Bridge saying the Ukrainian Army blew it up yesterday

IRPIN, UKRAINE - MARCH 02: A man walks in front of the shelled bridge in Irpin, on March 2, 2022, in Irpin (Ukraine). The Ukrainian front decided to shell the bridge as it is the direct way for the Russian convoy coming from Belarus to storm the capital. . (Photo By Diego Herrera/Europa Press via Getty Images)

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

G'day Roastie.

There have been some youtube videos with titles claiming the lies of MSM reports on the conflict. I haven't clicked on them because, well, that's what the MSM do. It isn't only covid that they lie about, it is EVERYTHING that they report. They do not report FACTS. They skew every report with bias, what they tell everyone to think about the images that they are exposing everyone too.

I personally think that the whole 'Ukraine war' is a distraction, useful in redirecting the outrage at the governments over covid / mandates onto a new target 'Russia / Putin'. When the 'war' ends they will restart the next round of covid restrictions and fearmongering.

 

[Firestarter]

Volodymyr Zelensky had Denis Kireev executed for treason, because he supposedly was a Russian spy (like Zelensky?). This is especially strange as Kireev was negotiating for the Ukraine at the "peace talks" with Russia on 28 February.

Denis Kireev had worked for several banks:
Ukreximbank, 2006-2012
Oschadbank 2010-2014

The most interesting in his resume is that between 2006 and 2012 Kireev worked for the "Austrian" company GROUP SLAV AG. GROUP SLAV AG was owned/controlled by Andrei Klyuev, and Denis Kireev was widely seen as an agent for Klyuev.
Klyuev is an ally of the pro-Putin Viktor Yanukovych, and fled the Ukraine at the same time as him: https://knowinsiders.com/who-is-ukrainian-denis-kireev-facts-his-death-russian-spy-34233.html
(https://archive.ph/v9rIJ)

Britain accused Russian intelligence services for maintaining links with former Ukrainian politicians, including Andrei Klyuev: https://globeecho.com/news/middle-e...-returns-to-the-fore-as-an-option-for-moscow/


Stranger still...
In 2012, the European Center for Modern Ukraine (ECFMU), affiliated with the pro-Russian president of Ukraine from 2010 to 2014 Viktor Yanukovych, hired Mercury LLC (of Paul Manafort), who subcontracted the Podesta Group for lobbying...
Of course in 2016, Manafort was the campaign manager of warp speed Donald, while John Podesta was crooked Hillary's campaign manager. But reportedly at that time Podesta wasn't subcontracted by Manafort for lobbying anymore.

Even stranger...
As part of the lobbying effort for the ECFMU, Mercury introduced none other than the brother of the previously mentioned Andriy, Serhiy Klyuyev, to important people in Washington DC, including several congressmen and John Schuster of the Export-Import Bank.
Less than a year after Mercury LLC introduced Klyuyev around the Hill, the EU froze his assets in the wake of the collapse of the Yanukovych regime.

The following explains this in short.

Dutch message to President Trump - Page 4 - Lawful Path Forums

 

[annabelle]

Zelensky is also a graduate of the Young Leaders program of the World Economic Forum. He has said that Justin Trudeau, another graduate of the Young Leaders program of the WEF (they 'graduated' same year), is who inspired him to become a politician.

Here Zelensky is in 2014.....

 

[Frothy]

 

[roastie]

According to my grasp on numerology ww1 is 32, ww2 is also 32 and invasion of Ukraine is 14 and none of those numbers
nor your number 68 have any significance to me. Why is 68 special?

 

[roastie]

NATO shares image of Ukrainian soldier wearing Nazi insignia; deletes it later​

"On Tuesday, on the occasion of International Women’s Day, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) tweeted a picture of a Ukrainian woman soldier with a Nazi symbol on the uniform and said that the Ukrainian women were a symbol of strength for their nation"

NATO posts image of Ukrainian soldier wearing Nazi insignia; deletes it later

The official Twitter account of NATO shared a picture of a Ukrainian woman soldier with a Nazi insignia emblazoned on her uniform | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

The MSM don't want to talk about Ukraine's far right element which also includes Israeli Jews.

 

[Frothy]

According to my grasp on numerology ww1 is 32, ww2 is also 32 and invasion of Ukraine is 14 and none of those numbers
nor your number 68 have any significance to me. Why is 68 special?

The 68 isn't special, it's common.

 

[roastie]

The 68 isn't special, it's common.

This is the way I calculate, but I had forgotton the master numbers 11, 22 and 33, so the dates given all have the common number 32, reducing it to 5 (3 plus 2) on each occasion 3 x 5 equals 15 reducing it to a final number of 6 (1 plus 5)

ww1 28/7/1914 is 2+8+7+1+9+1+4 = 32 and 3+2 = 5

ww2 1/9/1939 is 1+9+1+9+3+9 = 32 and 3+2 =5

Ukraine 24/2/2022 is 2+4+2+2+22 ( 22 master number) = 32 and 3+2 =5

I don't know enough about numerology to know if this is entirely correct. And the number 6 has
different meanings for different people?

 

[Frothy]

This is the way I calculate, but I had forgotton the master numbers 11, 22 and 33, so the dates given all have the common number 32, reducing it to 5 (3 plus 2) on each occasion 3 x 5 equals 15 reducing it to a final number of 6 (1 plus 5)

ww1 28/7/1914 is 2+8+7+1+9+1+4 = 32 and 3+2 = 5

ww2 1/9/1939 is 1+9+1+9+3+9 = 32 and 3+2 =5

Ukraine 24/2/2022 is 2+4+2+2+22 ( 22 master number) = 32 and 3+2 =5

I don't know enough about numerology to know if this is entirely correct. And the number 6 has
different meanings for different people?

The way it's been worked out on the post we're referring to is 28 is 28, not 2 + 8, which would be 10. Likewise 19 is 19, not 1+9 which again would be 10.

So when the number is say 28 it's counted as 28 and not 10. That method brings it to 68 for all three dates.

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

This is the way I calculate, but I had forgotton the master numbers 11, 22 and 33, so the dates given all have the common number 32, reducing it to 5 (3 plus 2) on each occasion 3 x 5 equals 15 reducing it to a final number of 6 (1 plus 5)

ww1 28/7/1914 is 2+8+7+1+9+1+4 = 32 and 3+2 = 5

ww2 1/9/1939 is 1+9+1+9+3+9 = 32 and 3+2 =5

Ukraine 24/2/2022 is 2+4+2+2+22 ( 22 master number) = 32 and 3+2 =5

I don't know enough about numerology to know if this is entirely correct. And the number 6 has
different meanings for different people?

G'day Roastie.

"2+4+2+2+22"

... is actually ... 2 + 4 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 14 and 1 + 4 = 5

5 in Pythagorean Numerology is the Number representing unconditional love and is the Number at the centre of the Birth Chart, where it touches all other Numbers.


3 --- 6 --- 9 >>> Mental Plane
2 --- 5 --- 8 >>> Spiritual Plane
1 --- 4 --- 7 >>> Physical Plane

In Pythagorean Numerology, the Numbers 11 and 22 do not get reduced in calculating the Ruling Number and are considered to be 'spiritual' Numbers. There are various reasons for this, one is that the Sun is on a 22 year cycle where it flips its magnetic poles every 11 years. Another is that 22 relates to the 22 major amino acids, the 22 chakras and it is the 22nd day after gestation occurs that one cell emits a sound that 'activates' the other cells that are all dormant until then.

The Ruling Number is the Number generated by adding all of the Numbers in the date of birth to find the digital root, which means that all Numbers are added together until a single digit is the total, except for the Numbers 10, 11 and 22.

So, for example, the date of birth as 24 / 2 / 2022 is ...

2 + 4 + 2 + 2 + 0 + 2 + 2 = 14 ... and ... 1 + 4 = 5

... which means the Ruling Number is 5 (RN 5) and is shown on the Birth Chart like this ...

............. | .......... | ..........
22222 | ........... | ..........
............ | ... 4 ... | ..........

... where each Number is placed in position to show the relationship that they have to each other.

Now, the date is premised upon the Gregorian calendar and therefore has no basis in reality other than to reference a claim of the date when the calendar is supposedly starting from. That is, 2022 years ago, even though it is well accepted that history extends beyond that point and is therefore a lot older than 2022 years.

Drawing inferences between the dates is speculative at best.

 

[roastie]

So, for example, the date of birth as 24 / 2 / 2022 is ...

2 + 4 + 2 + 2 + 0 + 2 + 2 = 14 ... and ... 1 + 4 = 5

Thanks for clarifying. I was correct with the number 14, resulting in 5 on my first attempt.

 

[Frothy]

Thanks for clarifying. I was correct with the number 14, resulting in 5 on my first attempt.

Anyway I don't give any credence to numerology, I just posted it for the fun of it. sometimes they will line up depending on the method used... imo it's a load of baloney.

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

Thanks for clarifying. I was correct with the number 14, resulting in 5 on my first attempt.

G'day Roastie.

No worries.

The ancient study of Music, Number, Geometry and Astronomy (in ancient Greece called the Quadrium) has been adulterated to keep knowledge from 'the masses', especially through Numerology and Astrology as epitomised by the 'New Age' mumbo-jumbo. Number has a direct relationship with Music and Geometry (as well as Astronomy, though I haven't studied that to the degree of the other three). In fact, I would go as far to state that Music, Number, Geometry, are 'keys' to comprehending Life in its entirety.

The Trivium was the study of Logic, Grammar and Rhetoric in ancient Greece. The Pythagorean teachings for instance included both the Trivium and Quadrium. Ancient Greeks, such as Herodotus and Plato, attribute their knowledge to the Egyptians, having studied for years with them. As there really are no accessible direct sources available, I suggest doing your own study / research.