David Icke Forum is a limited hang out

[ArmchairObserver]

I know who you are. Why are you obsessed with me?

Get on with your life. You joined this forum just to have a go at me. A forum you said was full of hateful Nazis and such.

You don't need to follow me everywhere...... It's weird man. Honestly.

But sadly I know, it's because you've literally got nothing else to do.

But come on man... It's sad to stalk someone and just thrive on being nasty.

And you call yourself a Christian. Clearly you are not.

I'm obsessed with you only in your imagination, and you're not being stalked, so please don't be paranoid. You are aware I read different forums and always keep up-to-date with what's happening.

I replied to you because you said you were staying away from forums.

It seems you're retreating into a foxhole because that's what you're recommending others should do. It's sad if you're retreating into a foxhole.

I don't believe free speech has ended and that this forum is dead. This forum may be quiet, but there are still signs of life, as evidenced by this thread, for example. I still love life and am very optimistic about the long-term future.

In my original post, in this thread that you replied to, I said, "Good to hear staying away from the forums is doing you good." (source)

If you only want people who agree with to reply to your posts, it's probably best not to post.

I'm pleased for you. I don't know why you're angry with me. I apologise for anything that has upset you and I forgive you for the things that you've said against me. Forgiveness is an integral part of following Yəhōšūa.

Being a Christian is a work in progress. We're all sinners, but we should also be able to forgive, and I forgive you. Yəhōšūa, the son of David, the son of Abraham and the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Messiah and Saviour, is also forgiving. I live by his example. He also said:

"I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.” (Luke 10:19-20)

Things are going very well for me and I'm feeling really positive about life. I wish you all the best.

 

[WhiteKingWins]

I campaigned to get you reinstated at one point after you were banned from Icke forum. Your rants against immigration were spot on..... But you also exclusively blamed Muslims back then.... and it took a few of us to get you to realise that they were just pawns in the game.....

Anyway, I've got better things to do than pursue silly and spiritually tiring vendettas against people.

Being away from forums for so long has done me a lot of good, I have been more productive with my writing and I no longer have that stupid feeling of having to check the threads to see who has been rude to me and thinking of something equally rude to say to them. What a load of crap. Hard to know if the abusers are government trolls which is probably part of it.... or just maladjusted individuals wanting to take out their problems on people without consequences.

It hardly matters now I suppose.... it's all history. This forum is just a frozen relic now of something...... a moment when we had free speech and could all point out the obvious about who really rules the world....

Free speech all over now I guess.... time to find yourself a foxhole and do what you can..... whatever that may be..... keeping positive and avoiding the traps they are setting for us would be a good start.

I wish you well... good luck, happiness to you and yours and all the rest of it......

Islam as a religious and political force will overcome the secular West if it is allowed to propagate inside Western " democracy "

That was my opinion then and that is still my opinion now , regarding Islam that is.

Even though much like Judaism and Christianity , Islam itself is not a monolith and within it's widespread reach there are many different factions who seem to have opposing goals.

Iran would be a good example. In recent years I have become aquainted with some Kurdish Persians and Royalists who were exiled after the Mullahs took over there.

We have , as nationalists , many things in common when it comes to wanting independance and sovereignty from the NWO model of global governence.

I have been blunt with them and said from the very start in our discussions that while I absolutely respect and find noble their cause for sovereignty in Persia , from my perspective Islam and the Christian world can be allies to ensure the prosperity of both systems but we should not expect to live amongst each other in large numbers and expect there to be no conflict.

I've found since I spent more time away from the David Icke forum and it's crowd that although followes of Icke tend to think of themselves as enlightened they have actually been some of the most caustic and belligerent people Ive met on the internet , you included spoon if im being frank.

Icke has led people into a moral abyss with his we are all one new age bullshit.

It was a point of contention I regularly raised while spending time on his forum.

I lost all respect for him when he began going off saying that " White people " are the problem during a Brian Rose interview.

Nobody would today give me credit for it , but if theres one thing I did on the Icke forum while I was there , it was to stand firmly for the interests of White Europeans and advocate for their interests above all others.

I continue to do so with my internet forays and in many ways , have gone on a natural journey of looking for knowledge and the truth of my experience in this world.

 

[Truthspoon]

I don't quite agree that Icke has led people into the abyss, at least not everyone who encountered him.

He was one of the few quasi-mainstream voices who were naming the J back in the days of the Biggest Secret. Of course the problem with Icke is that you get penny worth of truth for half a crown of bullshit.... but I won't slag him off: picking up his book at Heathrow airport at WHSmiths one day on the way to a job in Turkey his book explained a lot of the weird shit stuff which had been going on in my life. Thought I was going mad, turned out it was just some Masonic recruitment hidden inside a French government training course which I had been on, and the thing is they try to drive you mad..... He saved me a lot of trouble because back then I couldn't understand who or what these people were and what motivated them and how they had the manpower to do it. I experienced what is known as the Delphi technique, and this is something which has now become rampant in professional training and explains why the world is going to shit, because so many people have had their heads fucked by these Masonic training techniques. Those that don't join Masonry or similar groups, bow down and go along through sheer fear of their vastly superior numbers and organisation in all walks of life now.

Anyway..... for all the spats and slaggings we have had in the past, I for my part, apologise....it's hard to know who is who and it's easy to fall into a bunker/siege mentality at times...especially as there used to be a lot of Masonic activity in the past on the Icke forum and you did tend to have some weird friends back in the day... and the problem is that they very nature of the things we are discussing are by nature, highly emotive, but you have grown in wisdom a lot in a few years... that's the aim of the game.

You're right about Islam. It is supremacist and Imperialistic.... it was probably created by the Jews..... and it doesn't allow people to truly understand God, it makes them fearful and remote.... but conversely, it works....... Islamic societies are extremely peaceful, orderly and you could drop your wallet on a street corner and someone will pick up up and either hang around until you return or find a way to get it back to you... Muslims are amazing people..... it's when they get off the leash of their religion and their own countries and turn up here that they tend to lose the plot and get rapey and knifey..... that could be some MI5 bullshit at the same time however......or indeed it could be the Imperialistic spirit of Islam..... but usually our problems with Muslims is Pakistanis... and just look at their own country, the rapes and bombing to understand, that as a people, they're not the most stable. The Arabs I don't mind though.... Never had a single problem in more than ten long years of knowing them.

 

[Truthspoon]

Being a Christian is a work in progress. We're all sinners, but we should also be able to forgive, and I forgive you. Yəhōšūa, the son of David, the son of Abraham and the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Messiah and Saviour, is also forgiving. I live by his example. He also said:

"I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.” (Luke 10:19-20)

Things are going very well for me and I'm feeling really positive about life. I wish you all the best.

And I forgive you for trying to make out on a public forum that I was some kind of Neo-Nazi who loved guns. In this day and age that's a very dangerous thing to say to about someone as I'm sure you understand.

You know I'm not a Neo-Nazi... Funny thing is, when I first met you I thought you were....especially given your 'look' and your background with the skinhead gangs. And you know what? I didn't mind. I didn't think it was relevant to what was then our friendship.

As for guns, I still maintain people should join a clay-pigeon club or hunting club. I can only say if someone was trying to burgle my house and endanger my family.....he would meet a strong dissuasion and be sent packing. What's so bad about that?

All the best to you.... but please understand....how we got into the mess in the first place.

But we are here and we make mistakes.... You and I made mistakes..... but God's forgiveness is infinite and as long as we learn and endeavour to be better people, God will guide us to wisdom and eventually we will escape this madhouse.

But yeah, it's a work in progress....

 

[ArmchairObserver]

And I forgive you for trying to make out on a public forum that I was some kind of Neo-Nazi who loved guns. In this day and age that's a very dangerous thing to say to about someone as I'm sure you understand.

You know I'm not a Neo-Nazi... Funny thing is, when I first met you I thought you were....especially given your 'look' and your background with the skinhead gangs. And you know what? I didn't mind. I didn't think it was relevant to what was then our friendship.

As for guns, I still maintain people should join a clay-pigeon club or hunting club. I can only say if someone was trying to burgle my house and endanger my family.....he would meet a strong dissuasion and be sent packing. What's so bad about that?

All the best to you.... but please understand....how we got into the mess in the first place.

But we are here and we make mistakes.... You and I made mistakes..... but God's forgiveness is infinite and as long as we learn and endeavour to be better people, God will guide us to wisdom and eventually we will escape this madhouse.

But yeah, it's a work in progress....

Regarding guns, all I posted was that you applied for a licence to own a firearm and that it was a sign you live in fear. I thought it was sad you wanted to apply for a firearm. Where have I written you love guns? I've never claimed you love guns or that you were a gun loving neo-Nazi. I've never even called you a Nazi. You're mind is full of imaginings. I commented on some of your posts how you sucked up to Nazi sympathisers, but they didn't accept you because they thought you weren't a real Nazi. I also don't think you're a real Nazi, so I still don't know why you're angry.

When we were friends, all those years ago, I had absolutely no idea you had sympathies with white supremacy and right wing extremists. It was only later you went in that direction, long after we'd gone our separate ways.

Not all skinheads are right wing, and some are even left wing, but I'm neither right nor left, not even when we first met. You and I didn't share any political ideology. My main interests are in music, art, religion and philosophy. You project a lot, so if you thought I was a neo-Nazi that was just part of your imagination. If you'd have asked me at the time, I'd have told you then that I wasn't interested in taking political sides. IMO, both right and left wings are part of the same nut. It's a reason why Christ said, "My kingdom is not of this world". (John 18:36)

 

[Truthspoon]

Right wing extremists? White supremacy?

What are you talking about? I've no idea.

This is part of the problem. People like you label people like me who don't want unlimited mass-immigration and a loss of our culture (including our Christian heritage) as right-wing extremists and white supremacists.

If that is our starting point...then there's no way we can have any common understanding.

Sucking up to Nazi sympathisers? I share a forum where Flare and a few others used to post. I'm sorry nanny that offends you, but with all due respect what the fuck has that got to do with you?

If you were being an honest broker here you would acknowledge that I always argued with Flare about Hitler and the Nazis and I believed they were part of a hegelian dialectic and quoted Anthony Sutton that they were funded by Wall Street.

I got a lot of shit for that.... for not being a Nazi on this forum.

Anyway, it seems you're reverting to type. You just can't help yourself. Captain Snowflake getting offended for other people's beliefs. When I was never offended by you or your lifestyle. I don't judge people... just as you claimed you didn't...But it seems the things you say and the things you do, do not quite match up. This is called hypocrisy and you really should work that out.

I wish you well. Go your way. I will go mine.

I can't say fairer than that. Now I would be appreciative if you would try to forget about me.......

That would be best all round.

 

[roastie]

Regarding guns, all I posted was that you applied for a licence to own a firearm and that it was a sign you live in fear

If I remember correctly the First Amendment is the right to free speech which is being eroded by tyrants, and the second amendment is the right to bear arms against said Government tyrants taking power violently against its own people. Having a weapon to defend yourself isn't fear it's common sense.

I see you deleted the sentence saying TS is bigoted because of his views about Jews, Gays and Blacks, Why did you do that?

You disrupted my thread about homosexuals on the DIF.

Good thread imo!

The homosexual elite and the velvet mafia

A controversial subject, but one that needs exposure imo. I'll start with this. Brian Eptstein was a Jewish homosexual The Velvet Mafia: the gay men who helped shape music in the 60s Alun Owen, Lionel Bart and Brian Epstein at the Cavern Club in Liverpool in January 1964. Photograph: https://www....

forum.davidicke.com

Most of the paedophila committed by elites has been against young boys and not girls.

THE GAY MANIFESTO

By Michael Swift, "Gay Revolutionary." Reprinted from The Congressional Record of the United States Congress.
First printed in Gay Community News, February 15-21 1987

“We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams
and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your
gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth
groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in
your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together.
Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image.
They will come to crave and adore us"

https://media1-production.mightynetworks.com/asset/4819597/The_Gay_Manifesto.pdf

You said the above is satire. I don't think it is, it has come to pass like the Elders Protocols.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

Right wing extremists? White supremacy?

What are you talking about? I've no idea.

This is part of the problem. People like you label people like me who don't want unlimited mass-immigration and a loss of our culture (including our Christian heritage) as right-wing extremists and white supremacists.

If that is our starting point...then there's no way we can have any common understanding.

Sucking up to Nazi sympathisers? I share a forum where Flare and a few others used to post. I'm sorry nanny that offends you, but with all due respect what the fuck has that got to do with you?

If you were being an honest broker here you would acknowledge that I always argued with Flare about Hitler and the Nazis and I believed they were part of a hegelian dialectic and quoted Anthony Sutton that they were funded by Wall Street.

I got a lot of shit for that.... for not being a Nazi on this forum.

Anyway, it seems you're reverting to type. You just can't help yourself. Captain Snowflake getting offended for other people's beliefs. When I was never offended by you or your lifestyle. I don't judge people... just as you claimed you didn't...But it seems the things you say and the things you do, do not quite match up. This is called hypocrisy and you really should work that out.

I wish you well. Go your way. I will go mine.

I can't say fairer than that. Now I would be appreciative if you would try to forget about me.......

That would be best all round.

I've got no problem with anyone having concerns about mass immigration but it's the language you use and the nasty way in which you often deliver your views. I know what went on between you and Flare has nothing to do with me, but you did interact with him in on a public forum, so you can only blame yourself for making yourself like like a fool.

You wrote, "I don't judge people".

Lot's of things you've written have been very judgemental, not only against gays but against blacks, you wrote:

The thing about Blacks is that they do seem to be obsessed with tribal violence which translates as gang violence in the cities.

Them wanting to murder white people isn't particularly 'racist' in itself, it's just Black mentality and its constant need to create enemies and attempt to murder them.

There are probably anthropological reasons for this..... but the voice of the primitive black savage mind is not something human civilisation has any business listening to.

The only reason these people are given a voice is because someone wants to destroy civilisation.

Truthspoon

You've obviously got a short memory or you're very confused, and you've written lots of things like that.

I haven't judged you. It's only in your imagination that you think I've judged you. To say that you have "sympathies with white supremacy and right wing extremists" is not judging you, it's a fact., otherwise you wouldn't have promoted videos that feature people like Jason Köhne.

 

[WhiteKingWins]

Armchair observer I have a question for you.

Why do you pretend to be a-political ?

 

[WhiteKingWins]

" i haven't judged you I just called you a Nazi sympathizer thats all "

Is up there with the all time non judgemental classics.

 

[roastie]

Been moderated forever by Lake or Ink on DIF not for anti semitism but for exposing Jewish criminals, who imo for their numbers far outway criminality by any other religion, race or tribe. Not going to post on DIF ever again after someone deleted my thread "Why are People afraid of the facts about Jews"

Here's the latest Jewish criminal. His surname must be a joke? Bankman-Fried?

Sounds like how the Jewish Salomon Brothers office in Building Seven of the Towers were blown up by
controlled demolition because of fraud on the most grand Jewish scale?

Who would have guessed the Fried one was the second largest donor to Joe Biden after the Jew Soros?

Sam Bankman-Fried faces criminal probe for 'gambling' FTX users' cash

Crypto trading firms are scrambling to prevent mass withdrawals after it emerged the collapse of Sam Bankman-Fried's FTX platform is under investigation by attorneys in Manhattan.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Sam Bankman-Fried - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And so it continues throughout the world.

Call out Jewish criminality and generally people are deplatformed.

Except on here. Thanks Novum.

 

[roastie]

All those in power suck up to the disportionately Jewish Corporation of the City of London, Rothschilds, Israel, Wall Street, pro Jewish Royal Family etc etc whether they are red or blue.

Until these entities are exposed for enslaving black, white, yellow or whatever colour of people by their monopoly of the money supply and
their puppets in Government, nothing will ever change.

 

[Truthspoon]

Funny how Ink/Lake and all his other socks....spent so long building up trust... and assuring everyone he was one of us, against censorship of all kinds.... yet now he behaves as if he works for the ADL.....

Very strange behaviour....was the guy ever genuine and was this all part of some long term goal and destroying the Icke forum?

I don't know.... of course...it could be that he never had any beliefs of conviction at all....and just said the right thing to become popular....and now he has power....he can do as he likes.

I for my part can't understand how an honest man can behave like that....... He banned me for saying the Jews killed Jesus and quoted the Pope and the Guardian at me to show me I was wrong. An Icke webmaster who trusts the authority of the Pope and the Guardian? That's sets up some heavy cognitive dissonance. Lunatic. He makes me think of a sociopath to be honest..... will say and do anything to get what they want.....then when they get what they want....they show their true colours.

 

[roastie]

Sorry guys but I think Flare and Anderson are ok. You dont have to agree with everything they say, or their methods... but spooks? No.

Anderson has learned a lot over the past couple of years... sometimes some of our views change as we learn.

We're going to have to agree to disagree here Lux and TS I suppose.... i dont want to be in arguments or at war with people who I see as allies... we wont all always agree on everything though, and infighting only helps the yew know who's.

Not sure how accurate this is Nov, but thought you might be interested.

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[roastie]

Told ya all years ago!

Jordan Peterson literally cries for Israel.

 

[WhiteKingWins]

I recently went to look at the Icke forum to see if anyone had made mention of Kanye West talking openly about Jewish influence.

Didn't see anything there which I thaught was odd.

Then I noticed new forum rules about " anti semitism " and how they will have to shut the forum down if they keep seeing it.

It's much like anywhere else really , you can whine and complain about how the world is going to shit all day everyday but don't you dare put 2 and 2 together and start naming names.

 

[ArmchairObserver]

Armchair observer I have a question for you.

Why do you pretend to be a-political ?

I don't pretend. I don't believe in any man-made political ideology or system.

" i haven't judged you I just called you a Nazi sympathizer thats all "

Is up there with the all time non judgemental classics.

Who are you attributing that quote to? Are you attributing that quote to me? I've not said TS is a Nazi sympathiser. I actually said TS has "sympathies with white supremacy and right wing extremists", and I explained why giving evidence. It's not a final judgement either, it's just my impression given the evidence. Only God can make a final judgement. I presented evidence to support why I said that. If TS wants to dispute the evidence, fine, and if it's convincing, I'll change what I think, but he hasn't responded. If you're not satisfied with the evidence, there's plenty more that he's written on public forums.

 

[WhiteKingWins]

Armchair Observer

You clearly do have political leanings though.

Your use of terminology demonstrates that more than you determination to pretend you are a-political.

TBH with you I've been through all this before on the internet with various posters who on the one hand pretend they are above it all but regularly and intentionally post very , very political statements.

You are here trying to brow beat Spoon about being a far right Whitw supremacist for example.

Well , that puts you firmly inside a political debate from which you have pre conceived ideas about the meaning of such terms which have been given to us by the political discourse across Western nations. Your views are embraced by and epitomise the language expressed by one particular political faction.

Lastly , I don't need to review Spoons posts because Im not here as some sort of self appointed langauge police.

Are you English by any chance ?

 

[ArmchairObserver]

Armchair Observer

You clearly do have political leanings though.

Your use of terminology demonstrates that more than you determination to pretend you are a-political.

TBH with you I've been through all this before on the internet with various posters who on the one hand pretend they are above it all but regularly and intentionally post very , very political statements.

You are here trying to brow beat Spoon about being a far right Whitw supremacist for example.

Well , that puts you firmly inside a political debate from which you have pre conceived ideas about the meaning of such terms which have been given to us by the political discourse across Western nations. Your views are embraced by and epitomise the language expressed by one particular political faction.

Lastly , I don't need to review Spoons posts because Im not here as some sort of self appointed langauge police.

Are you English by any chance ?

You're making claims but you're not backing up anything you say. If you can't quote me or even quote me correctly, I can't see where I've supported or promoted any political ideology. I'm not political because I don't believe in any man-made political ideology or system. Are you a Christian? What's the point in believing in a system/matrix that's ruled by Satan, if it's ephemeral and destined to pass away? The only thing that's permanent and eternal is God's kingdom. I don't believe the world is coming to an end, but IMO, we're in the final days of Satan's system of things. Isn't that obvious by now?

 

[WhiteKingWins]

Im not here to police language but I am a keen observer of how langauge is used.

You made the observation that Spoons use of langauge reminds you of extremism , far right , white supremacy etc

So I am observing that your language reminds me of the language of the predominant narratives employed by Western states in their description of what they perceive to be a threat to their long term goals.

Namely White Europeans who would ask the simple question " what is good for the White people ? "

I was born and raised in the UK btw and moved away in pursuit of a better life and love.

I am accutely aware of the psychological programming that people in the UK are subjected to on a daily basis , even the counter culture alternative lifestyle submissions are highly manipulated and controlled.

I am acutely aware that much of what has been nurtured as a-political discourse is in fact in full support of the objectives of the NWO.

Namely :

We are all one race the human race

A fixation with the far right and " Nazis "

The stubborn refusal to accept that a disarmed populace is vulnerable to tyranny either externally or internally generated

Most of all a programmed self loathing , in the mistaken belief that imolating yourself on the national stage as a means of seeking forgiveness for some historical event will someone make the rest of the world a better place

There is always inference in how language is employed , a sub text exists within a-political leanings that invariably puts the a-political slap bang alongside the likes of ANTIFA and other highly political organizations.